Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager Concerned That Stiverne Missed His Drug Test

[Shadoww702]

Thats TWO violations already! between him an Pedvetkin, Deontay's mandatories ( and replacement opponent Wawrzyk ) makes five failed PED test - the WBC and VADA are doing a EXCELLENT job making sure that only those that come in clean qualify for the most prestigious title in all of sports ; ironically Luis Ortiz is a confirmed cheat!

The HW are the biggest cowards in all of boxing! this is why I stick with the lighter-weights but these casuals wouldn't know boxing if it was happening inside their living rooms.

Testing them should be the 1st part. Punishing them should be part of it as well. Let's see wht the WBC does with this before we give them props. I still don't know why PedStiverne is even ranked #1???

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Allowing a guy to miss his tests?? And still have him ranked #1???

The WBC has not commented on the missed test yet. There are protocols that need to be followed.

We don't know yet if Stiverne will retain his ranking or not.

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I still don't know why PedStiverne is even ranked #1???

He got there via attrition.

Something the IBF doesn't allow (which is why #1 and #2 are often vacant in the IBF rankings).

But attrition is common in the WBC and WBA.

[1hourRun]

Testing them should be the 1st part. Punishing them should be part of it as well. Let's see wht the WBC does with this before we give them props. I still don't know why PedStiverne is even ranked #1???

Pedvetkin has been suspended by the WBC! the WBA-WBO-IBF are the sanctioning bodies that have ignored his drugs violations in reinstating him into their rankings even handing him minor titles for his last fight!, you know I mentioned uninformed fans in this very same thread and then you come out with this ****** comment...wtf?

[hitking]

Why are they concerned about Stiverne when supposed to be fighting Ortiz? And why is Breazeale even being mentioned? Getting in an argument at a hotel doesn't make it a good fight.

[juggernaut666]

Why are they concerned about Stiverne when supposed to be fighting Ortiz? And why is Breazeale even being mentioned? Getting in an argument at a hotel doesn't make it a good fight.

Beat me too it ...lol

The many gullible ppl on here are going to be very disappointed when the SUPPOSED Ortiz fight doesn't happen and becomes just another Wilder scheme to make it look like hes trying to fight someone of relevance .

Stiverne 2 is coming and Haymon wont let Ortiz near Wilder unless that is a last option .

[saintpat]

Beat me too it ...lol

The many gullible ppl on here are going to be very disappointed when the SUPPOSED Ortiz fight doesn't happen and becomes just another Wilder scheme to make it look like hes trying to fight someone of relevance .

Stiverne 2 is coming and Haymon wont let Ortiz near Wilder unless that is a last option .

Haymon has signed Ortiz. Makes complete sense to have two of his guys fighting for the title -- he collects a share from both ends and regardless of who wins he still has the WBC title in his stable.

[Roronoazoro]

as much as i hate stiverne(which is alot), some of yall comments are getting out of hand. after joshua, wilder, wlad, and ortiz, a case can be made that bermane stiverne (as inactive as he is) is the 5th best heavyweight in the world today. remember stiverne lost to a 6ft 7 man with a 84 inch reach and 97%ko ratio. if parker was in the ring with stiverne, parker would get floored in 7rds

Really think to yourself "wilder is understandable, but why would alexander povetkin feel the need to take steroids leading up to a fight against bermane stiverne?". there was obviously something about stiverne that made povetkin feel like he needed a extra boost or extra edge and lead to him taking roids.

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Beat me too it ...lol

The many gullible ppl on here are going to be very disappointed when the SUPPOSED Ortiz fight doesn't happen and becomes just another Wilder scheme to make it look like hes trying to fight someone of relevance .

Stiverne 2 is coming and Haymon wont let Ortiz near Wilder unless that is a last option .

I consider myself somewhat of a Wilder fan. I live in Nashville. So there's not a lot of big time boxing within a three hour drive around here. So I've been to more Wilder fights than I probably should have considering his level of competition. I actually attended Wilder's pro debut. It was here in Nashville on the Taylor-Lacy undercard.

That said, I'm far from blind. I've been annoyed with Wilder's level of competition almost from jump. He pretty much fought nobody the first 25-30 fights of his career. They used the excuse that he was late to the sport, which is true, to an extent. The guy won an Olympic bronze medal. Late to the sport or not. An Olympic medalist shouldn't need 20 club fighters to get his feet wet. And since winning the belt against Stiverne, it's been pretty bad. Now I don't place all the blame on Wilder. The thing with Provetkin wasn't his fault. But Provetkin isn't the only good heavyweight out there to fight. This Ortiz thing is definitely a step in the right direction. Outside of AJ, Fury, or Wladimir, I think it's the best fight out there for him. Honestly, I'd rather he drop the belt and fight Ortiz than have to see another Stiverne fight.

[juggernaut666]

Haymon has signed Ortiz. Makes complete sense to have two of his guys fighting for the title -- he collects a share from both ends and regardless of who wins he still has the WBC title in his stable.

Sighning someone only gives you more control who they fight . Haymon risking a Wilder vs Joshua mega fight ? He would soon just waste a whole year in a court room battle with Stiverne which he basically is doing now ,buying time in hopes a Joshua fight could happen late 2018 /2019 with less risk and Ortiz is a risk.