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  • American Dream
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    #81
    Originally posted by Chollo Vista
    Because those were years he could've fought Cotto, Marg and Williams in their prime.



    Baldo - November 2006 - Welterweight

    Judah - April 2006 - Welterweight

    Oscar - May 2007 - JMW

    Hatton - December 2007 - JWW - Hatton was not Top 10 at Welterweight.

    Marquez - September 2009 - Lightweight

    Mosley - May 2010 - Welterweight

    That's 2 WW's in 3 years and 6 months to be exact.

    2 Welterweights when you had Cotto, Williams and Margarito waiting in the shadows.




    Ok, you want to play this game?

    Pac fought Hatton when Hatton was #10 P4P and in his right division at 140 when he was #1, not at 147 where he wasn't even ranked.

    Pac fought Cotto when he was P4P #8 and the #2 WW.

    Pac fought Marquez in 2008 when he was P4P #3 and was #2 Jr Lightweight

    Pac fought Clottey when he was the #4 WW

    Pac fought Marg for the 154 lb title, get this, for his 8th weight class.

    Pac fought Mosley when he was the #5 WW.

    Pac fought Marquez when he was the champ at Lightweight, just as Floyd had done and was #4 P4P.

    Pac beat Bradley when he was #3 P4P and #1 WW in 2014

    Pac fought Bradley again when he was the #4 WW

    And get this? Pac and Cotto did it WITHOUT 2 1/2 year retirements.

    Cotto fought Marg when he was #4 WW

    Cotto fought Judah when he was #4 WW

    Cotto fought Mosley when he was #3 WW

    Cotto fought Clottey when he was #4 WW

    Cotto fought Pac when he was #5 WW and #1 P4P

    That's 5 Top 10 WW's and 1 P4P fighter while Floyd was get this... retired. That's 5 Top 10 WW's in 3 years, with Floyd only fighting 2 Top 10 WW's in 3 years.

    Let's keep going:

    Cotto fought Foreman while he was #7 JMW and won the WBA.

    Cotto fought Martinez while he was the #1 MW champ and #5 P4P

    Cotto fought Geale while he was the #4 MW

    That's 8 Top 10 fighters covering 4 different weight classes with NO RETIREMENTS
    ...but this list is so flawed...so just to be clear, you're not giving Floyd credit for fighting the champ Baldo...because he was, well...Baldo..
    But you're giving credit for Clottey?

    And..you're giving credit to Pac for fighting these guys at a catch weight, and earning a title in the divisions along the way for it?! 😂

    How about this...post a list of Pacs resume that doesn't include wins/titles at catch weights that purposely drained them..
    That takes away majority of your list automatically.

    If you can't do that, then don't discredit Floyd fighting a "JWW Hatton" ..because it's a logical fallacy!

    Also...you're listing opponents Cotto fought,but didn't win against..
    So you get credit for losing now?

    I see you are giving credit to Pac fighting guys coming off of devastating losses..tsk tsk

    Revise your list to mention only wins...with no catch weight for both fighters.

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    • Reloaded
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      #82
      Originally posted by richardt
      The fact that you talk about a point at 147 when Floyd retired for a while and other junk, shows you cannot be objective - and random drug testing??? If you think that has a bearing on era and ATG status, you are hopelessly pathetic. ATG's are rated by collective analysis and no one is dumb enough to add up things that have no bearing on ATG rating and only show an irrelevant bias. Anyone can talk about titles and opponents but then you have to place values on every opponent, every title, and how many titles, wins, losses, rounds won and lost and yet Floyds name is STILL at the top. But it takes none of those mathematical equations and evaluations to figure out who was the best. It is simpler than that. Name the PFP highest ranked fighter for x number of years and who is ranked higher on the ATG. Not to mention the fact that Floyd not only beat Cotto, he beat two guys who beat Cotto. It is not even arguable whose name is the highest on the list of PFP for the highest number of years and highest ranked in the ATG status. Dude, logoff, you are done here.
      That's a very good post based on truth.

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        #83
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        Pacquiao's titles.

        WBC Flyweight Title (December 1998-September 1999; 1 defense)
        IBF Junior Featherweight Title (June 2001-2003; 4 defenses)
        WBC Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008-July 2008; 0 defenses)
        WBC Lightweight Title (June 2008-February 2009; 0 defenses)
        (3) WBO Welterweight Title (November 2009-June 2012; 3 defenses, April 2014-May 2015; 1 defense, November 2016-present; 0 defenses)
        WBC Light Middleweight Title (November 2010-February 2011; 0 defences

        That's 6 divisions. Why you always lying?
        Lying, you can't get anything right, calling you ****** would be a compliment, pacquaio has won titles at 1-flyweight 2-super bantam 3- featherweight 4- super feather 5-lightweight 6-super light 7-welterweight 8 super welter you need to pull your head out of floyds arse, 8 divisions, equates to floyd fighting all the way to LHW AND WINNING WORLD TITLES AT ALL THOSE DIVISIONS you DUMB FCUK

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          #84
          Originally posted by ironmt
          Damn, case closed. Excellent post.
          Chollo just made larry cry, what a classic

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            #85
            Originally posted by Street
            I can't.

            Floyd beat great fighters. Hall of Fame fighters


            He is simply the best of his era and that can not be denied.

            No other boxers has beat that many top level fighters and gone undefeated. Not even Ray Robinson
            So what. The fact is Robinson would beat Floyd.

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              #86
              Originally posted by TonyGe
              So what. The fact is Robinson would beat Floyd.
              Also the fact Robinson fought up to 20+ times a year in some years, how would money deal with that

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              • Lords
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                #87
                Floyd needs to get more credit for his fight with Canela. I remember everyone and their mommys saying Floyd was ducking and a coward for not fighting him, we seen the result of that.
                Last edited by Lords; 07-23-2017, 06:59 AM. Reason: asdf

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by American Dream

                  Also...you're listing opponents Cotto fought,but didn't win against..
                  So you get credit for losing now?


                  Revise your list to mention only wins...with no catch weight for both fighters.
                  I think he's pointing out who Cotto has fought and not ducked, win or lose.

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Shape up
                    Also the fact Robinson fought up to 20+ times a year in some years, how would money deal with that
                    Agreed. Ray also had two long winning streaks. 40-0 and later
                    89-0. The guy was incredible.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Pacquiao's titles.

                      WBC Flyweight Title (December 1998-September 1999; 1 defense)
                      IBF Junior Featherweight Title (June 2001-2003; 4 defenses)
                      WBC Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008-July 2008; 0 defenses)
                      WBC Lightweight Title (June 2008-February 2009; 0 defenses)
                      (3) WBO Welterweight Title (November 2009-June 2012; 3 defenses, April 2014-May 2015; 1 defense, November 2016-present; 0 defenses)
                      WBC Light Middleweight Title (November 2010-February 2011; 0 defences

                      That's 6 divisions. Why you always lying?
                      Gone missing now ******, you say you know boxing and get this SO SO WRONG, you know jack **** about boxing you moron

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