Will we ever see Undisputed boxing champions again?

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  • SthPaw
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    #11
    The belt situation severely decreases the amount of prestige and honour of being called champion. It shouldn't be the case for undisputed or not, that is a product of the more modern game...should be one king per division but we will never see that again unfortunately

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      Originally posted by oscar9992
      Will we ever see Undisputed boxing champions again?


      Looking at how modern boxing evolving we might never ever see Undisputed champion again ...


      As belts are losing their values, and very few actually want collect them all...


      What do you think about this?

      Will we ever see Undisputed boxing champions again?



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      Some of Undisputed Champions in Boxing History...


      Roy Jones Jr., last Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion




      Bernard Hopkins, Undisputed Middleweight Champion




      Lennox Lewis, last Undisputed Heavyweight Champion

      Roy Jones wasn't undisputed. Michalczewski was the lineal champ.

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      • DeadLikeMe
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        #13
        When a fighter even gets close it only lasts like a week before Arum has the WBO stripped so he can give it back to a Top Rank fighter.

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        • NEETzsche
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          #14
          Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
          When a fighter even gets close it only lasts like a week before Arum has the WBO stripped so he can give it back to a Top Rank fighter.
          C'mon now, they might also gift it to a Queensberry fighter

          Seriously though I think step one towards eliminating extraneous titles could simply come from key journalists refusing to acknowledge paper titlists as "champions" any more. Seems like a minor victory but it could lead to a more educated fanbase demanding more of the promoters and sanctioning orgs. If ESPN, Yahoo, The Ring, etc., stopped referring to, e.g., Lomachenko as "champion", you bet he and Arum would suddenly be in more of a hurry to get one of the other titlists in the ring with him. I chose Loma as an example here because I believe he is the best in his division but will likely never prove it in the ring thanks to Arum's symbiotic relationship with the WBO, which is the problem in a nutshell. And yes the WBO is clearly the greater of the four evils. But of course this isn't likely to happen when so many key boxing journalists seem to act more in the interest of certain promoters than for the fanbase and sport as a whole

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          • Gunpowdergreg
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            #15
            Yes, we will see undisputed champions again but will we ever see ALL-Time not just generational or era Greatness again?

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            • Eff Pandas
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              #16
              Originally posted by jas
              It will take someone with enough money to be able to buy out the sanctioning bodies or have a big enough stable and marketing dollars to push a brand new belt that everyone recognises as THE belt

              Could have been haymon . he had big investors behind him for pbc but he lost half a billion dollars according to reports?? So that ship has probably sailed
              I think there are issues with the MAA & an entity with too much power with fighters working hand in hand so idk that the PBC could have ever created a actual title belt. You'd have to be clever &/or slick with how you did something like that.

              But yea someone with money would help steer things the way boxing should go for sure.

              Originally posted by NEETzsche
              Seriously though I think step one towards eliminating extraneous titles could simply come from key journalists refusing to acknowledge paper titlists as "champions" any more. Seems like a minor victory but it could lead to a more educated fanbase demanding more of the promoters and sanctioning orgs. If ESPN, Yahoo, The Ring, etc., stopped referring to, e.g., Lomachenko as "champion", you bet he and Arum would suddenly be in more of a hurry to get one of the other titlists in the ring with him. I chose Loma as an example here because I believe he is the best in his division but will likely never prove it in the ring thanks to Arum's symbiotic relationship with the WBO, which is the problem in a nutshell. And yes the WBO is clearly the greater of the four evils. But of course this isn't likely to happen when so many key boxing journalists seem to act more in the interest of certain promoters than for the fanbase and sport as a whole
              This sounds good, but does anyone trust any of the boxing media reallllllllly? The Ring is ODLH's boy. Fat Dan/ESPN is down for Arum. I barely read anything Yahoo does so idk who they are down for these days. But how do we trust these en****** with alliances already in play? And what happens when its not clear or not agreed upon who's the non-paper champion?

              I think this goes beyond what the media can do & to me the media should just be talking about whats going on & not making these sorta impactful decisions on a sport regardless of the merits one can make for them being positive.

              I think fans not giving a f#ck about titles more & more has already lessened the value of belts & the abc groups are trying to alter the trajectory with more "special" belts & even talk by some of these groups of making one belt. Fans have more impact on the sport than the media does. But its not by protesting or other goofy sounding sh^t like that its just be general disinterest in bs fights & more interest in good fights regardless of a title being on the line.

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              • bluebeam
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                #17
                Originally posted by Chuckguy
                Won't the winner of canelo ggg be undisputed?

                No.

                Billy joe Saunders is the wbo champion at 160



                f**cking casuals don't know anything
                Last edited by bluebeam; 07-22-2017, 01:23 PM.

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                • iamboxing
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                  #18
                  I believe Golovkin will be the next undisputed champion, I give it 1 or 2 years.

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                  • bluebeam
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by iamboxing
                    I believe Golovkin will be the next undisputed champion, I give it 1 or 2 years.

                    Crawford or indongo will be undisputed next month.

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                    • Eff Pandas
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bluebeam
                      Crawford or indongo will be undisputed next month.
                      Has the IBF made a ruling about the Indongo vs Lipinets mandatory? If they haven't I wouldn't be surprised if they pull some last minute bs & swipe the IBF title from that fight.

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