Roy Jones Jr. at Heavyweight

[redmish]

He should have retired after the Ruiz fight and he would be revered as top 5 ATG. What's happened since as spoiled his legacy but what a fighter he was.

[Damn Wicked]

No he wasn't

Lol he was 189 at the weigh in and the HBO fight night scale scale is unofficial

Check out the weight stats at the very beginning of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynKvpgrD8c

[Chollo Vista]

Check out the weight stats at the very beginning of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynKvpgrD8c

I saw the video. Jim Lampley said the guy at the weigh in read the scales wrong and that Roy was really 189 and the fight night weigh in scale was unofficial.

[Damn Wicked]

He was just under.

Yes, he was 199 lbs on fight night according to HBO stats.

Here's the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynKvpgrD8c

[Damn Wicked]

I saw the video. Jim Lampley said the guy at the weigh in read the scales wrong and that Roy was really 189 and the fight night weigh in scale was unofficial.

Interesting! Thanks, I'll check it out again.

I've always been a bit annoyed with the stats that they show because I've seen guys like Mosley, Pacquaio, Holyfield, both Klitschkos and many other fighters listed as different heights quite a few times. Sometimes their height varies as much as 1.5 inches. Jeez, I wish there was a reliable source with precise measurements....Maybe they measure the fighters while they're wearing their shoes before some fights and without shoes before other fights....?? I don't know.

[robertzimmerman]

Yes, he was 199 lbs on fight night according to HBO stats.

Here's the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynKvpgrD8c

Yes, that was his 2nd weigh-in.

Thomas Hauser was there when they weighed him at 199, and he noted that if you subtracted 3 pounds for his clothing, he was around 196 pounds.

As someone else has mentioned, it's all documented in the documentary: "The Sweet Science"

Marc Ratner of the N.S.A.C. weighed him at 193 pounds, but Mackie Shilstone, who Roy had hired to help him bulk up, immediately questioned the result. Later on, Ratner apologised and said that the scales weren't calibrated properly. When he reweighed him that's when the scales read 199, which was HBO's source.

The Sweet Science: (5 parts)

https://*************/watch?v=s3z7LZjmXTw

https://*************/watch?v=2oYj3zWKCJU

https://*************/watch?v=HlMylf9__eg

https://*************/watch?v=IrHydFIwfBo

https://*************/watch?v=ZGPqkQmJTYY

[robertzimmerman]

Roy claimed he was more than 193 and the scale was off, I forget what it was but closer to 200. 193 takes away from the excuse of having to drain down massive amounts of muscle to make 175 again for the tarver rematch.

Anyways, Ruiz did have a belt and was in the top but it was also hand picked due to styles and a ref hand picked that would not allow ruiz "huggy bear" to hold much.

No way roy beats lewis but it would have been cool to see him fight toney again or someone like byrd. I think he needed to put on more weight though if he wanted to stay there and compete with larger and mobile fighters.

There was no excuse in regards to losing the weight to fight Tarver. He had to burn muscle in only a few months.

[CatchAndShoot]

Ruiz was still a 230 pound HW who possessed enough power to easily have put Roy to sleep.

Easily put him to sleep is highly debatable.

[robertzimmerman]

Easily put him to sleep is highly debatable.

How so?

He was a 235 pound HW who dropped Evander.

I'm sure Ruiz hit harder than Tarver.

[CatchAndShoot]

How so?

He was a 235 pound HW who dropped Evander.

I'm sure Ruiz hit harder than Tarver.

Yeah, if RJJ just stood there, and let him hit him, I'm sure he could hurt RJJ. My point is, he had almost no chance of being in position to land anything substantial on him. Not that he couldn't land something on his jaw, and he wouldn't go down.

And yeah, he dropped Holyfield, but Holy was way older at that point, and **** happens. Going into that fight, Ruiz was just known as a hugger with no real HW pop.