Comments Thread For: Lomachenko: I Was Preparing For Salido, But Ready For Marriaga
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He put him in with Salido because he was the WBO champ, and the WBO were the only ones willing to rate him highly enough to fight for a belt after he beat a fighter that they had in their top 15 (who was Jose Ramirez). Loma wanted to make history, and he he did as the fastest to win a World title. He holds the record with another Thai fighter.
No other fighter, other than Leon Spinks, has a more impressive record after their first 9 fights than Lomachenko.
Who cares,I guess if someone starts boxing at age 30 after yrs of being ready 2 go pro earlier,& win a title right away because they started old af,that means everyone will hype them too? Imagine the ******ation that canelos only 26 & has fought waaay better competition than 29 yr old loma in multiple weights,& yet hes supposedly not top 5 p4p. There's only 1 reason racism. Imagine if he started at age 26 how many people would kiss his ass if he beat trout in 2nd fight.Last edited by kushking; 07-22-2017, 01:18 AM.Comment
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I know that reread my post,I added to it. And thats my point that loma started at 25 old af. That 25 yr old(when he was 25) canelo had 49 wins vs 40yo mosley,cintron,trout,angulo,lara,kirkland,cotto & many others,& has won many more belts & yet is not considered p4p top 5 by racist fanbois like those clowns at espn,but hypechenko is. That shows what a p4p atg hypejob lomachenko is.(And Im someone who says lomas very skilled & talented)Last edited by kushking; 07-22-2017, 01:27 AM.Comment
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Well, he's got a chance to prove it against Golovkin.I know that reread my post,I added to it. And thats my point that loma started at 25 old af. That 25 yr old(when he was 25) canelo had 49 wins vs 40yo mosley,cintron,trout,angulo,lara,kirkland,cotto & many others,& has won many more belts & yet is not considered p4p top 5 by racist fanbois like those clowns at espn,but hypechenko is. That shows what a p4p atg hypejob lomachenko is.(And Im someone who says lomas very skilled & talented)Comment
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The problem is you aren't giving Loma enough credit over Walters.I know that reread my post,I added to it. And thats my point that loma started at 25 old af. That 25 yr old(when he was 25) canelo had 49 wins vs 40yo mosley,cintron,trout,angulo,lara,kirkland,cotto & many others,& has won many more belts & yet is not considered p4p top 5 by racist fanbois like those clowns at espn,but hypechenko is. That shows what a p4p atg hypejob lomachenko is.(And Im someone who says lomas very skilled & talented)
Walters stopping Donaire who was borderline P4P top 10 should have catapulted him into P4P top 10, or at least near it. Usually that's what happens when a fighter schools a P4P or top rated fighter. Even more so, Walters moves up and still kicks ass (although he got robbed against Sosa). I dont care what anything thinks of Sosa, hes still a top 10 fighter in that division. So essentially, Walters proved himself to be one of the best fighters in two divisions, without ever having a close fight previously.
Then comes Loma, who absolutely schools Walters at 130. He's rated highly because of how effortless it was done. The only people downplaying Walters are the ones who don't want to give credit where it's due. And for the record, Walters beats/stops Rigo if they ever fought at 130. I'd bet $100 with any poster here on that.
I don't want to hear a layoff excuse. Postol had a 9-10 month layoff against Crawford. Gamboa moved up in weight like Donaire, although Gamboa had a layoff over 1 year. Excuses like these can be made for any fighter.Last edited by UNBIASED BOXING; 07-22-2017, 02:58 AM.Comment
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hope you're prepared 4 a novel:The problem is you aren't giving Loma enough credit over Walters.
Walters stopping Donaire who was borderline P4P top 10 should have catapulted him into P4P top 10, or at least near it. Usually that's what happens when a fighter schools a P4P or top rated fighter. Even more so, Walters moves up and still kicks ass (although he got robbed against Sosa). I dont care what anything thinks of Sosa, hes still a top 10 fighter in that division. So essentially, Walters proved himself to be one of the best fighters in two divisions, without ever having a close fight previously.
Then comes Loma, who absolutely schools Walters at 130. He's rated highly because of how effortless it was done. The only people downplaying Walters are the ones who don't want to give credit where it's due. And for the record, Walters beats/stops Rigo if they ever fought at 130. I'd bet $100 with any poster here on that.
I don't want to hear a layoff excuse. Postol had a 9-10 month layoff against Crawford. Gamboa moved up in weight like Donaire, although Gamboa had a layoff over 1 year. Excuses like these can be made for any fighter.
If you notice I never brought up his competition being overrated whatsoever,for a guy with 9 fights his resume is impressive. My only point is that its not top 5 p4p impressive when compared with other fighters not considered top 5 p4p,as if you say he deserves it then others surely deserve it at least a bit more.
It also matters a huge amount how old a fighter is when comparing resumes. As I said Lomachenko is very talented,but just as I said pre ggg fighting Jacobs,we can't yet know just how good he truly is until he has more fights.
Obviously his & ggg situations are far different,but look at how gg stepped up vs Jacobs 4 1st time in career & even his trainer said it'd be easy work.Comment
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Continued:The problem is you aren't giving Loma enough credit over Walters.
Walters stopping Donaire who was borderline P4P top 10 should have catapulted him into P4P top 10, or at least near it. Usually that's what happens when a fighter schools a P4P or top rated fighter. Even more so, Walters moves up and still kicks ass (although he got robbed against Sosa). I dont care what anything thinks of Sosa, hes still a top 10 fighter in that division. So essentially, Walters proved himself to be one of the best fighters in two divisions, without ever having a close fight previously.
Then comes Loma, who absolutely schools Walters at 130. He's rated highly because of how effortless it was done. The only people downplaying Walters are the ones who don't want to give credit where it's due. And for the record, Walters beats/stops Rigo if they ever fought at 130. I'd bet $100 with any poster here on that.
I don't want to hear a layoff excuse. Postol had a 9-10 month layoff against Crawford. Gamboa moved up in weight like Donaire, although Gamboa had a layoff over 1 year. Excuses like these can be made for any fighter.
I told EVERYONE that I would potentially bet on Jacobs as he was unfairly 8 to 1 dog,& I was rediculed,but I told everyone that this is 1st true test gigis had as his other opponents were c level for various reasons (always had huge flaws/disadvantages) & that if ggg did what sanchez claimed he would then I'd be a true believer & would admit hes the real deal.
But I said if he doesn't then he'd prove us detractors right all along. I said for 2nd ward v kov fight that I am ABSOLUTELY sure Ward would destroy him as he already lost mentally the minute he acted the way he did until the fight,& that ward would tire him out since he starts gassing after 4th.once his ko dont come,& that Ward should be a faaar bigger favorite than he was.
My only point is since ive been coming to this sight ive been right about almost every single fight going the way I said & 90% of what managers would do. I always said Canelo would fight ggg in sep 017,ive said that Arum is a lying dirtbag & wants to establish a white cashcow he can Cherrypick 4 like chavez jr etc.etc.
& Now im saying that Im 100% sure Arum wont match lomachenko with anyone like berchelt until late 2018 early 2019,& unless lomachenko fights & beats Rigo I will only consider him a hypejob. I TRULY hope im wrong but as I've said I can't remember being wrong about my predictions before.I think Arum wants Lomachenko to do exactly what ggg did until recently. He wants to very carefully cherrypick his fights since hes now established his stardom,Arums own words make me sure of it.He knows as long as lomachenko destroys some more C levelers then he can use 2017-18 to make tons off him.
Salido loss made Arum paranoid as he was supposed to beat salido easily or Arum wouldn't have picked him. But I do rate Walters highly.(thats his best scalp)Last edited by kushking; 07-22-2017, 06:42 AM.Comment
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1. Comparing Lomo and GGG is just ******.Continued:
I told EVERYONE that I would potentially bet on Jacobs as he was unfairly 8 to 1 dog,& I was rediculed,but I told everyone that this is 1st true test gigis had as his other opponents were c level for various reasons (always had huge flaws/disadvantages) & that if ggg did what sanchez claimed he would then I'd be a true believer & would admit hes the real deal.
But I said if he doesn't then he'd prove us detractors right all along. I said for 2nd ward v kov fight that I am ABSOLUTELY sure Ward would destroy him as he already lost mentally the minute he acted the way he did until the fight,& that ward would tire him out since he starts gassing after 4th.once his ko dont come,& that Ward should be a faaar bigger favorite than he was.
My only point is since ive been coming to this sight ive been right about almost every single fight going the way I said & 90% of what managers would do. I always said Canelo would fight ggg in sep 017,ive said that Arum is a lying dirtbag & wants to establish a white cashcow he can Cherrypick 4 like chavez jr etc.etc.
& Now im saying that Im 100% sure Arum wont match lomachenko with anyone like berchelt until late 2018 early 2019,& unless lomachenko fights & beats Rigo I will only consider him a hypejob. I TRULY hope im wrong but as I've said I can't remember being wrong about my predictions before.I think Arum wants Lomachenko to do exactly what ggg did until recently. He wants to very carefully cherrypick his fights since hes now established his stardom,Arums own words make me sure of it.He knows as long as lomachenko destroys some more C levelers then he can use 2017-18 to make tons off him.
Salido loss made Arum paranoid as he was supposed to beat salido easily or Arum wouldn't have picked him. But I do rate Walters highly.(thats his best scalp)
To be fair Lomo already picked better wins than GGG.
Lomo and GGG are totally different fighters, style wise and career wise.
Gary Russel and Walters wins are underrated.
Fck it Russel will clean 126 and Walters was a 2 division champion, beat up Donnaire and Vic, and the guy lost every second of the fight.
2. Saying that Lomo is a protected hype job is just ******ED.
The dude fought Salido the Golem balls cutter in his second fight.
And you have the nerve to call it cherry picking from TR??
Then he fought Russel back to back, no tune up, another top caliber opponent in his third fight, but dude is protected.
Please, make yourself a favor and just delete your post.Comment
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