Is there a chance that floyd is not a PED user?

[Sp0rty Cr@ig]

who brought up pacquiao?


Floyd was caught with a needle in his arm.

OK then Lets agree that both are cheaters. One uses illegal IV to rehydrate and the other turned down the biggest fight of his life because it required him to take random blood tests before the fight. Everything Else was agreed upon. He even got a 50-50 purse split offered to him. Turned it down due to drug tests. And he is clean? Lmaoooo

Why can't both fighters be cheaters? Start using Logic instead of blindly nuthugging your favorite fighter..

[pasawayako]

Floyd is the worst kind of PED user, the hypocritical kind

he wants other fighters to stay clean while he roids up, with USADA's blessings

I very much agree man. Floyd didn't pick USADA to conduct the test without giving floyd special treatment.

[pasawayako]

if you don't think Floyd Mayweather is the worst type of drug cheat then you're just brain dead. it's as simple as that.

That's why i can't believed that some of his fans still think that floyd is not a PED user.

[Japanese Boxing]

Of course he used em, most guys do.

[ADP02]

Im a big floyd fan, but i call a spade a spade and i have to admit that the whole IV thing was kind of shady. He has said himself multiple times he doesnt cut alot of weight and walks around at about 155, yet he needed an IV from severe dehydration. Then said he was 150 on fight night, **** just doesnt add up.

Either hes lying about how much weight he cuts, or he did something. Or he just plain and simple was dehydrated and wanted an IV.

At least I can call you an objective Floyd fan.


- Floyd was weighed 30 days out and as can be seen in the pre-fight form signed by Floyd, he weighed in at 149/148lbs 2 weeks out and 1 week out. So to say, Floyd was ROCK SOLID STABLE as can be as far as his weight was concerned.

- Add to that: Floyd and his team admits to making weight easily and did for a decade.

- His vital signs were all normal.

- Pre-fight interviews, Floyd brings up that during his final days, he is just relaxing, watching basketball, watching movies and just "shaking out". LOL!!!

- Plus seeing Floyd drinking adequately and frequently enough after the weigh in, shoots down any reason that would permit using something that is BANNED by WADA!!!!




Exhibit 1
pre-fight form signed by Floyd, he weighed in at 149/148 2 weeks out and 1 week out.





Exhibit 2 - Vital Signs = NORMAL





Exhibit 3




Exhibit 4






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[travestyny]

At least I can call you an objective Floyd fan.


- Floyd was weighed 30 days out and as can be seen in the pre-fight form signed by Floyd, he weighed in at 149/148lbs 2 weeks out and 1 week out. So to say, Floyd was ROCK SOLID STABLE as can be as far as his weight was concerned.

- Add to that: Floyd and his team admits to making weight easily and did for a decade.

- His vital signs were all normal.

- Pre-fight interviews, Floyd brings up that during his final days, he is just relaxing, watching basketball, watching movies and just "shaking out". LOL!!!

- Plus seeing Floyd drinking adequately and frequently enough after the weigh in, shoots down any reason that would permit using something that is BANNED by WADA!!!!



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Well well well. Look who it is. The zombie boy is back!


1. How about you give me those points you owe. By the way, did you see that Zaroku voted.

The final score was actually 4-0!

2. None of you fools can explain how he was able to trick the independent WADA lab. Your stories don't add up.

A. He gave a partial sample from before the IV.
B. His sample before and after the IV were not allowed to be diluted.
C. The specific gravity of the samples were to be checked by both the DCO and by the independent WADA lab. The sample sent to the lab didn't even have his name attached to it.
D. The only way that an IV would trick a urine test is by dilution..and since I just explained the sample wasn't allowed to be diluted...looks like you lose. Seems to be a pattern there, huh ADP02?
E. The TUE Committee approved of the IV without his name on the application, as per the rules.


We all know how you handle things. When you lose...claim someone is cheating, right? Right? lol.


Pass me my points. Thanks.

[JoeKidd]

If Floyd goes so far as to select the guy's gloves, he's going to pass on such a huge advantage. Floyd is all about having the advantage. And he's not dumb to get caught.

[ADP02]

Well well well. Look who it is. The zombie boy is back!


1. How about you give me those points you owe. By the way, did you see that Zaroku voted.

The final score was actually 4-0!

2. None of you fools can explain how he was able to trick the independent WADA lab. Your stories don't add up.

A. He gave a partial sample from before the IV.
B. His sample before and after the IV were not allowed to be diluted.
C. The specific gravity of the samples were to be checked by both the DCO and by the independent WADA lab. The sample sent to the lab didn't even have his name attached to it.
D. The only way that an IV would trick a urine test is by dilution..and since I just explained the sample wasn't allowed to be diluted...looks like you lose. Seems to be a pattern there, huh ADP02?
E. The TUE Committee approved of the IV without his name on the application, as per the rules.


We all know how you handle things. When you lose...claim someone is cheating, right? Right? lol.


Pass me my points. Thanks.

1) How about you give me back the time I wasted in that thread? Not worth posting when you do not care what the judges were voting on ... all you cared about was winning at all cost.


2)
a) There was a delay of 6+ hours!!!! For certain drugs that delay could be the difference between catching PEDs or not.
b) There was an IV used and with what exactly?
c) From the time that the DCO came (1:45pm) to when he left (8pm) anything could have happened. Athletes have admitted to having cheated with the DCO close by!!! Oh, and can you point out to who the DCO was? Must be easy and I'm sure he is next to Floyd in many or all the pictures/videos, right?
d) USADA said its banned to use an IV. So your question is dumb because you are making it sound like its not possible to cheat!!! Also, you do not even have to be caught with PEDs in your urine to get suspended nor do they need to know "HOW" the athlete did it.
e) As have been shown in studies, a drug begins to be diluted even when specific gravity is above the limit set. If tested as being diluted, its possible that later when the specific gravity is acceptable, the amount of the banned drug still remains diluted enough to pass the test! More so when the PED used quickly becomes undetectable.

f) Floyd's/Ellerbe's LIES do NOT add up to the extent that IV was required.LOL.
- Giving urine days before will NOT affect your hydration! IV required? LOL
- Giving blood 10 days before will NOT affect your hydration! IV required? LOL
- Floyd said in multiple interviews that he shut it down (relaxing) the last days prior to the fight (shakeout only). So no more heavy enduring type workouts as "Captain Obvious" would have told you! IV required?


TRAVIS TYGART:
Q: If I had 72 hours, could I mask EPO?

A: "Yeah."

Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?

A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."

Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?

A: "I mean, we do not notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."

Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?

A: "Yep, all that ..... 10 minutes before, you could mask it."


Floyd had a delay of 6+ hours. To test for EPO you require quite a bit of urine .... Again, it took 6+ hours to get Floyd's urine sample!!!
Anyhoot, Floyd did NOT need an IV when he was seen drinking orally!!!



3) You would have said the same about Lance Armstrong if he was your hero. "You still cannot come up with an explanation to, how could Lance have cheated with the DCO right there?" and your other line. "Lance got tested 100s of times and you think that he was able to pass all those tests?"
Yet he cheated many times and many different ways! They even accepted a BS RETRO prescription!


4) Dehydrated means what?
Floyd weighed basically the same for 30 days, admitted to making weight EASILY and there is lots more info in which disputes his LIES.....
Yet you are asking us how he did it instead of admitting that Floyd did NOT require a BANNED IV!!!! OOOOPs!!!


5) As per the rules, Floyd was suppose to drink orally and he did! If you do the math, Floyd was supposed to have enough urine after so much time elapsed without the BS IV!

WADA:
It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.


6) While we both know its a lie but why was Floyd not admitted to the hospital? Oh, it was not required? LOL .... and even funnier .... Just after getting the IV, Floyd was giving interviews and saying this:

"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything........"





7) You are a die hard Floydie fan. No objectivity in you and you will say anything including CHEAT!!! So I have learned that its useless discussing with you!

8) Like usual, YOU DEFLECTED instead of answering my post directly.


It's simple and the evidence is all there. There was no reason to have used an IV when he could and did drink adequately. Floyd did NOT lose 15-20lbs, so NO, he was NOT severely dehydrated and interviews by him stated that he was just waiting it out and was relaxing the days prior to his fight. He stated the obvious that he only did minor activity to stay sharp! Your non-objective Floyd fan mentality does not even want to believe Floyd's statements when it shoots him down! I applauded the other Floyd fan for at least keeping it real!!!




Lets face it. If it was anyone but Floyd, you would be calling the athlete a CHEATER!!!! You have done so in the past with less information.





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[travestyny]

1) How about you give me back the time I wasted in that thread? Not worth posting when you do not care what the judges were voting on ... all you cared about was winning at all cost.


2)
a) There was a delay of 6+ hours!!!! For certain drugs that delay could be the difference between catching PEDs or not.
b) There was an IV used and with what exactly?
c) From the time that the DCO came (1:45pm) to when he left (8pm) anything could have happened. Athletes have admitted to having cheated with the DCO close by!!! Oh, and can you point out to who the DCO was? Must be easy and I'm sure he is next to Floyd in many or all the pictures/videos, right?
d) USADA said its banned to use an IV. So your question is dumb because you are making it sound like its not possible to cheat!!! Also, you do not even have to be caught with PEDs in your urine to get suspended nor do they need to know "HOW" the athlete did it.
e) As have been shown in studies, a drug begins to be diluted even when specific gravity is above the limit set. If tested as being diluted, its possible that later when the specific gravity is acceptable, the amount of the banned drug still remains diluted enough to pass the test! More so when the PED used quickly becomes undetectable.

f) Floyd's/Ellerbe's LIES do NOT add up to the extent that IV was required.LOL.
- Giving urine days before will NOT affect your hydration! IV required? LOL
- Giving blood 10 days before will NOT affect your hydration! IV required? LOL
- Floyd said in multiple interviews that he shut it down (relaxing) the last days prior to the fight (shakeout only). So no more heavy enduring type workouts as "Captain Obvious" would have told you! IV required?


TRAVIS TYGART:
Q: If I had 72 hours, could I mask EPO?

A: "Yeah."

Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?

A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."

Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?

A: "I mean, we do not notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."

Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?

A: "Yep, all that ..... 10 minutes before, you could mask it."


Floyd had a delay of 6+ hours. To test for EPO you require quite a bit of urine .... Again, it took 6+ hours to get Floyd's urine sample!!!
Anyhoot, Floyd did NOT need an IV when he was seen drinking orally!!!



3) You would have said the same about Lance Armstrong if he was your hero. "You still cannot come up with an explanation to, how could Lance have cheated with the DCO right there?" and your other line. "Lance got tested 100s of times and you think that he was able to pass all those tests?"
Yet he cheated many times and many different ways! They even accepted a BS RETRO prescription!


4) Dehydrated means what?
Floyd weighed basically the same for 30 days, admitted to making weight EASILY and there is lots more info in which disputes his LIES.....
Yet you are asking us how he did it instead of admitting that Floyd did NOT require a BANNED IV!!!! OOOOPs!!!


5) As per the rules, Floyd was suppose to drink orally and he did! If you do the math, Floyd was supposed to have enough urine after so much time elapsed without the BS IV!

WADA:
It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.


6) While we both know its a lie but why was Floyd not admitted to the hospital? Oh, it was not required? LOL .... and even funnier .... Just after getting the IV, Floyd was giving interviews and saying this:

"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything........"





7) You are a die hard Floydie fan. No objectivity in you and you will say anything including CHEAT!!! So I have learned that its useless discussing with you!

8) Like usual, YOU DEFLECTED instead of answering my post directly.


It's simple and the evidence is all there. There was no reason to have used an IV when he could and did drink adequately. Floyd did NOT lose 15-20lbs, so NO, he was NOT severely dehydrated and interviews by him stated that he was just waiting it out and was relaxing the days prior to his fight. He stated the obvious that he only did minor activity to stay sharp! Your non-objective Floyd fan mentality does not even want to believe Floyd's statements when it shoots him down! I applauded the other Floyd fan for at least keeping it real!!!




Lets face it. If it was anyone but Floyd, you would be calling the athlete a CHEATER!!!! You have done so in the past with less information.





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Dude, shut your dumb ass up and give me those points. You are a ****ing coward. You are less than a man for sure.

All of you idiots talking about Lance when Lance cheated a ****ing blood test, you idiot. He did not cheat a Urine test because there was no urine test for the drug he was taking at that time.

You posted all of that bullshlt, yet I'm sure you realized...

A. Floyd didn't know when they were coming
B. Floyd gave a partial sample from BEFORE THE IV.
C. Floyd gave a partial sample IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE IV.


So if he had something in his system before the IV, he gets popped. If he had something that he was taking IN THE IV, he gets popped.

It's over for you. Now once again, shut your dumb ass up and give me the points that you owe.


And stop being a ****ing hypocrite. YOU are the one who only cared about winning. We went to the dome because I asked you about a specific question over 20 times. "Is EPO a threshold substance?" You DEFLECTED and thought you could win based on a different topic. I agreed to change the topic there, and you STILL LOST. So who was only concerned with winning? That was YOU. Too bad you lost 4-0, Dumbo! The time you wasted is because you're a ****ing idiot. While you're clawing your way out of that dirt, be sure to pass me the points that you owe for getting your ****** ass kicked around for months. How did that feel?

[ADP02]

1) How about you give me back the time I wasted in that thread? Not worth posting when you do not care what the judges were voting on ... all you cared about was winning at all cost.


2)
a) There was a delay of 6+ hours!!!! For certain drugs that delay could be the difference between catching PEDs or not.
b) There was an IV used and with what exactly?
c) From the time that the DCO came (1:45pm) to when he left (8pm) anything could have happened. Athletes have admitted to having cheated with the DCO close by!!! Oh, and can you point out to who the DCO was? Must be easy and I'm sure he is next to Floyd in many or all the pictures/videos, right?
d) USADA said its banned to use an IV. So your question is dumb because you are making it sound like its not possible to cheat!!! Also, you do not even have to be caught with PEDs in your urine to get suspended nor do they need to know "HOW" the athlete did it.
e) As have been shown in studies, a drug begins to be diluted even when specific gravity is above the limit set. If tested as being diluted, its possible that later when the specific gravity is acceptable, the amount of the banned drug still remains diluted enough to pass the test! More so when the PED used quickly becomes undetectable.

f) Floyd's/Ellerbe's LIES do NOT add up to the extent that IV was required.LOL.
- Giving urine days before will NOT affect your hydration! IV required? LOL
- Giving blood 10 days before will NOT affect your hydration! IV required? LOL
- Floyd said in multiple interviews that he shut it down (relaxing) the last days prior to the fight (shakeout only). So no more heavy enduring type workouts as "Captain Obvious" would have told you! IV required?


TRAVIS TYGART:
Q: If I had 72 hours, could I mask EPO?

A: "Yeah."

Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?

A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."

Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?

A: "I mean, we do not notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."

Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?

A: "Yep, all that ..... 10 minutes before, you could mask it."


Floyd had a delay of 6+ hours. To test for EPO you require quite a bit of urine .... Again, it took 6+ hours to get Floyd's urine sample!!!
Anyhoot, Floyd did NOT need an IV when he was seen drinking orally!!!



3) You would have said the same about Lance Armstrong if he was your hero. "You still cannot come up with an explanation to, how could Lance have cheated with the DCO right there?" and your other line. "Lance got tested 100s of times and you think that he was able to pass all those tests?"
Yet he cheated many times and many different ways! They even accepted a BS RETRO prescription!


4) Dehydrated means what?
Floyd weighed basically the same for 30 days, admitted to making weight EASILY and there is lots more info in which disputes his LIES.....
Yet you are asking us how he did it instead of admitting that Floyd did NOT require a BANNED IV!!!! OOOOPs!!!


5) As per the rules, Floyd was suppose to drink orally and he did! If you do the math, Floyd was supposed to have enough urine after so much time elapsed without the BS IV!

WADA:
It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.


6) While we both know its a lie but why was Floyd not admitted to the hospital? Oh, it was not required? LOL .... and even funnier .... Just after getting the IV, Floyd was giving interviews and saying this:

"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148...I'm extremely happy with everything........"





7) You are a die hard Floydie fan. No objectivity in you and you will say anything including CHEAT!!! So I have learned that its useless discussing with you!

8) Like usual, YOU DEFLECTED instead of answering my post directly.


It's simple and the evidence is all there. There was no reason to have used an IV when he could and did drink adequately. Floyd did NOT lose 15-20lbs, so NO, he was NOT severely dehydrated and interviews by him stated that he was just waiting it out and was relaxing the days prior to his fight. He stated the obvious that he only did minor activity to stay sharp! Your non-objective Floyd fan mentality does not even want to believe Floyd's statements when it shoots him down! I applauded the other Floyd fan for at least keeping it real!!!




Lets face it. If it was anyone but Floyd, you would be calling the athlete a CHEATER!!!! You have done so in the past with less information.





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Dude, shut your dumb ass up and give me those points. You are a ****ing coward. You are less than a man for sure.

All of you idiots talking about Lance when Lance cheated a ****ing blood test, you idiot. He did not cheat a Urine test because there was no urine test for the drug he was taking at that time.

You posted all of that bullshlt, yet I'm sure you realized...

A. Floyd didn't know when they were coming
B. Floyd gave a partial sample from BEFORE THE IV.
C. Floyd gave a partial sample IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE IV.


So if he had something in his system before the IV, he gets popped. If he had something that he was taking IN THE IV, he gets popped.

It's over for you. Now once again, shut your dumb ass up and give me the points that you owe.


And stop being a ****ing hypocrite. YOU are the one who only cared about winning. We went to the dome because I asked you about a specific question over 20 times. "Is EPO a threshold substance?" You DEFLECTED and thought you could win based on a different topic. I agreed to change the topic there, and you STILL LOST. So who was only concerned with winning? That was YOU. Too bad you lost 4-0, Dumbo! The time you wasted is because you're a ****ing idiot. While you're clawing your way out of that dirt, be sure to pass me the points that you owe for getting your ****** ass kicked around for months. How did that feel?

Man, still DEFLECTING!!!

- Lance cheated every which way that was possible!!! YUUP!!!
- Delayed giving urine/blood samples? YUUUP!
- Got himself a RETRO prescription? YUUP!
- Was tested 100s of times and "managed" to pass them all? BUT we know he cheated? YUUP!!!
- Paid off the organization that could have put him away? YUUP!!!
- Lance took more than one drug!!! YUUP!!!
- Lance raced also when they used urine to test for EPO? YUUP!!! .... BUT that is not even the point, DEFLECTOR!!!



DEFLECTOR, I responded to your BS. Go read what I posted then come back and answer DIRECTLY to my post, no DEFLECTIONs!!!


For certain tests you need sufficient urine or else the test is not valid or possible or gives you an incorrect result!!!! That is why they waited 6+ hours for Floyd to give a measly 60-90ml. Do the MATH!!! Floyd should have been able to give a sample without getting an IV!

Other Floyd fans are seeing the obvious. You are not! That is what you are having a hard time responding to!!!



This is NOT about HOW Lance Armstrong or Floyd did it.
It's about Floyd getting a BANNED IV when he didn't require one.

It's about Floyd's/Ellerbe's excuse for getting the IV. Were their excuses valid enough reason to get an IV? NO WAY!!! It's a no brainer .... DEFLECTOR!!!!




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