Comments Thread For: White: McGregor Must Make it a Fight, Can't Outbox Mayweather

[aboutfkntime]

The argument is.. Dude shouldnt have gotten an iv before he went to the ring after talking a bunch of "i am small for even ww" bs so much
Which makes folks wonder whats in the iv. Something off about that to you? It is to ppl,with common sense. Ps. You dont make your own argument, its an open argument so thinking ppl can throw in actual thoughts and not group think ideas. Sorry, you failed. Which make you an id......hahaha.

no, that IV gave the ******EST pacstains something to cry about as they desperately attempted to change the subject away from the fact that Pac was a 1200+ punch fighter when he refused random blood tests, but then turned into a normal 400-500 punch fighter when he suddenly decided to cash out and take the tests


1) Mayweather was tested right throughout that camp
2) he was tested AGAIN, immediately prior to receiving the IV
3) the IV was administered by USADA, so your insinuation means that they are knowingly complicit in supplying fighters with steroids..... which is beyond ******ed





the main reason why that fantasy is ******ed, is.....
1) that IV is ONLY questioned by pac-tards
2) those very same pac-tards completely ignore this.....

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned




2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

[Steven Mccowan]

no, that IV gave the ******EST pacstains something to cry about as they desperately attempted to change the subject away from the fact that Pac was a 1200+ punch fighter when he refused random blood tests, but then turned into a normal 400-500 punch fighter when he suddenly decided to cash out and take the tests


1) Mayweather was tested right throughout that camp
2) he was tested AGAIN, immediately prior to receiving the IV
3) the IV was administered by USADA, so your insinuation means that they are knowingly complicit in supplying fighters with steroids..... which is beyond ******ed





the main reason why that fantasy is ******ed, is.....
1) that IV is ONLY questioned by pac-tards
2) those very same pac-tards completely ignore this.....

This is why i believe you are a teenager. I dont really pay attention to ppl that make up names for fighters. If you dont like boxing dont watch it. But to be a fan of one or two guys and calling everyone else names is extremely weird.you cant just sit around in your tmt track suit and think you know anything about boxing. For one thing i work for a small promoter, manager and a former boxer thats in the nj hall of fame and i respect all the fighters. For another thing, science is a constant thing. If you believe any of the top fighter arent on peds then you are very small minded person, they have ppl that find ways around tests, this includes jr. I mean you dontseem like a reasonable thinker though. Spouting off all the tired arguments that your group think has decided for you just doesnt cut it in reality. Go watch bowling or something, that is if you can cling on to a black bowler and calleveryone else childish names.

[aboutfkntime]

This is why i believe you are a teenager. I dont really pay attention to ppl that make up names for fighters. If you dont like boxing dont watch it. But to be a fan of one or two guys and calling everyone else names is extremely weird.you cant just sit around in your tmt track suit and think you know anything about boxing. For one thing i work for a small promoter, manager and a former boxer thats in the nj hall of fame and i respect all the fighters.....

I like lots of fighters, pretty much all of them

and I did not call a fighter names, I called his fans pac-tards

..... For another thing, science is a constant thing. If you believe any of the top fighter arent on peds then you are very small minded person, they have ppl that find ways around tests, this includes jr. I mean you dontseem like a reasonable thinker though. Spouting off all the tired arguments that your group think has decided for you just doesnt cut it in reality. Go watch bowling or something, that is if you can cling on to a black bowler and calleveryone else childish names.

no, I don't believe that at all

that is an ignorant knee-jerk reaction

I believe that many are, and I believe that the problem could be endemic

fyi, guys who avoid/obstruct drug tests are the most su****ious

[Steven Mccowan]

I like lots of fighters, pretty much all of them

and I did not call a fighter names, I called his fans pac-tards





no, I don't believe that at all

that is an ignorant knee-jerk reaction

I believe that many are, and I believe that the problem could be endemic

fyi, guys who avoid/obstruct drug tests are the most su****ious

you may not believe it. But 90 percent of the guys who make enough money are on peds. Its the reality. And only the gabe montoya's of the world think that because vada or usada gives appointment tests that means its somehow overriding the speed at which ppl are coming up with ways to pass the tests. Look i dont give a fook if mayweather, pacauaio, cotto, canelo or anyone else is doing this. Its kinda like the lance armstrong case, the guy did absolutely what was needed to be competitive in a dirtysport where everyone else is dirty, but he worked harder than them and had more natural abilities as well. Just like the aformentioned fighters i spoke of just now. Im not slamming any of the fighters, im saying that ppl should understan the facts and then there wont be any back and forths from folks sticking up for one fighter or another in order to put their faves under a better light.

[aboutfkntime]

you may not believe it. But 90 percent of the guys who make enough money are on peds. Its the reality. And only the gabe montoya's of the world think that because vada or usada gives appointment tests that means its somehow overriding the speed at which ppl are coming up with ways to pass the tests. Look i dont give a fook if mayweather, pacauaio, cotto, canelo or anyone else is doing this. Its kinda like the lance armstrong case, the guy did absolutely what was needed to be competitive in a dirtysport where everyone else is dirty, but he worked harder than them and had more natural abilities as well. Just like the aformentioned fighters i spoke of just now. Im not slamming any of the fighters, im saying that ppl should understan the facts and then there wont be any back and forths from folks sticking up for one fighter or another in order to put their faves under a better light.

hold on.....

in your last post, you stated that EVERY top fighter was using

now..... you estimate 90%

if I stand here long enough, what could I get you down to ?

what happens to the 10% of fighters that you threw under a bus between your last 2 posts..... how will they have their day in court?

look, no real argument here..... all I am saying is..... you simply cannot make the assumption that every single fighter is dirty, based on the few that get caught

I definitely agree that the problem is worse that we thought

like I said, it could be endemic

there needs to be better testing

that is one thing the WBC have done well

if you are SOLELY motivated by the betterment of boxing, then I am not gonna argue with you

[Steven Mccowan]

hold on.....

in your last post, you stated that EVERY top fighter was using

now..... you estimate 90%

if I stand here long enough, what could I get you down to ?

what happens to the 10% of fighters that you threw under a bus between your last 2 posts..... how will they have their day in court?

look, no real argument here..... all I am saying is..... you simply cannot make the assumption that every single fighter is dirty, based on the few that get caught

I definitely agree that the problem is worse that we thought

like I said, it could be endemic

there needs to be better testing

that is one thing the WBC have done well

if you are SOLELY motivated by the betterment of boxing, then I am not gonna argue with you

Yeah well 90 is a minimum. And i have talked to and read and heard many of the ppl that have helped ppl juice and all concur that testing is always one step behind. But juicing doesnt come cheap so they gotta have good money coming in from fighting. Those who do not are usually caught with some kind of 80' s steroid. Point is. Boxing is a dirty sport and will never ever be cleaned up. No matter what wbc or anybody else pretends to be doing during pr moments. Like say someone like andre ward, if he was taking a lie detector teat and passed saying he never has used anything i wouldnt drop dead of a hearr attack but if he did i also wouldnt drop dead haha.

[Steven Mccowan]

hold on.....

in your last post, you stated that EVERY top fighter was using

now..... you estimate 90%

if I stand here long enough, what could I get you down to ?

what happens to the 10% of fighters that you threw under a bus between your last 2 posts..... how will they have their day in court?

look, no real argument here..... all I am saying is..... you simply cannot make the assumption that every single fighter is dirty, based on the few that get caught

I definitely agree that the problem is worse that we thought

like I said, it could be endemic

there needs to be better testing

that is one thing the WBC have done well

if you are SOLELY motivated by the betterment of boxing, then I am not gonna argue with you

oh and the story on pac is that he put rocks in pockets to actually even make a weight in beginning. I think its a no brainer that he juiced. I have no problem with saying that. My problem is for someone to asume others are not doing the same things. **** i wish pac and jr woulda been juicing like rocky before their fight, then maybe it woulda been entertaining

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah well 90 is a minimum. And i have talked to and read and heard many of the ppl that have helped ppl juice and all concur that testing is always one step behind. But juicing doesnt come cheap so they gotta have good money coming in from fighting. Those who do not are usually caught with some kind of 80' s steroid. Point is. Boxing is a dirty sport and will never ever be cleaned up. No matter what wbc or anybody else pretends to be doing during pr moments. Like say someone like andre ward, if he was taking a lie detector teat and passed saying he never has used anything i wouldnt drop dead of a hearr attack but if he did i also wouldnt drop dead haha.

I am no expert, but the main benefit from steroid abuse is increased stamina/conditioning

that will not benefit a pure boxer like it will a pressure fighter/swarmer

could a fighter hit harder on the juice? possibly..... but not much I would think

could a fighter become tougher, as-in, the allegations that have been levelled toward Pacquiao..... that he can simply walk through punches now..... no way, I don't believe that for a second

i believe they can train harder/recover quicker, so will have better stamina/conditioning

it is difficult to level unfounded accusations against guys who have trained the exact same way since they were kids

we need better testing, no question

peace

[Steven Mccowan]

I am no expert, but the main benefit from steroid abuse is increased stamina/conditioning

that will not benefit a pure boxer like it will a pressure fighter/swarmer

could a fighter hit harder on the juice? possibly..... but not much I would think

could a fighter become tougher, as-in, the allegations that have been levelled toward Pacquiao..... that he can simply walk through punches now..... no way, I don't believe that for a second

i believe they can train harder/recover quicker, so will have better stamina/conditioning

it is difficult to level unfounded accusations against guys who have trained the exact same way since they were kids

we need better testing, no question

peace

peace out man

[Graz]

I just don't know how "McGregor must make it a fight" if he "can't outbox Mayweather." Isn't it supposed to be a boxing match. I guess he can hit Mayweather with the stool and get disqualified.