LOL, What the Hell kind of question is this? How is this even supposed to be taken as a serious question? Are you ****** or something? Of course it's Canelo. However, that doesn't mean he is not going to get his ass whooped though.
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Who got a better resume: Canelo right now or GGG
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Originally posted by icha View Postof course you can if you are biased, one has fought the better fighters, the other has fought the bigger fighters period...
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Originally posted by satiev1 View PostCanelo is at 160 now not 154. It's absolutely makes sense to talk about 160 fighters. 154 lb trout and lara do not beat jacobs and lemeuix at 160. If they were 160? Guess what that's irelvant cause they're not and canelo is at 160 now.
ggg has better wins at 160, canelo has yet to fight a legit mw, but thats a different story, p4p canelo has the better resume and he still has a long way ahead unlike ggg who is on his way out. .
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Originally posted by bigdramashow View Postgolovkin. people just seem to write off the mayweather loss, canelo embarrassed himself. many also thought he lost to lara. I dont see many quality wins tbh, is the ghost of cotto a good win? Chavez jr who was on the prisoner of war diet? I think canelo would lose to jacobs and i think he'd struggle against lemiuex. I think hed really struggle against brook at 154 too.
So many holes in your ignorant argument. Yes Canelo lost badly to Mayweather but let's not for get that was a match up over p4p #1 fighter in the world vs a relatively inexperienced (at that level) fighter. Canelo, having to come in at 152, also had that same prisoner of war diet you run your yap about Jr. Not many people think Canelo lost to Lara (the same fighter that team g string wouldn't even consider when Lara called their bluff). You don't see many quality wins? Pretty ignorant statement considering the guy you're backing in this argument has exactly one quality win and struggled mightily to get that one. I also think Canelo/Jacobs is a 50/50 fight but Canelo crushes both LeMew and Brook.
It's ok, anyone who pays attention know you're a clown and base all of your boxing opinions on your agenda and not facts.
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Simple logic to this answer:
1) GGG's resume at 160 pounds > Canelo Alvarez's resume at 160 pounds (by virtue of Canelo Alvarez having no fights at 160 pounds.
2) Canelo Alvarez's resume at Canelo weight > GGG's resume at Canelo weight (by virtue of GGG not having any fights at Canelo weight).
However, in terms of P4P, when two boxers are roughly the same size (like how GGG and Canelo Alvarez are), I give more credit to the boxer fighting in a higher weight division against heavier opponents on a more consistent basis. Thus, GGG > Canelo Alvarez P4P in terms of their resume.
At least GGG destroyed Kell Brook and other smaller opponents he fought in those rare occasions that he fought them in. What happened when Canelo Alvarez fought opponents that are similarly small in Floyd Mayweather Jr and Miguel Cotto? He got humiliated and lost a shutout decision to the former and got a gifted victory over the latter in a fight that should've been a draw, whilst taking into consideration that Miguel Cotto was already previously stopped by lighter opponents (Manny Pacquiao) in a lighter weight division (147 pounds) and was much older by the time he fought Canelo Alvarez.
So why does Canelo Alvarez get so much credit for beating smaller sized opponents in Miguel Cotto and others but when GGG does it (much more convincingly as well), it's somehow deemed as something not worthy of any credit.
Does Canelo Alvarez really deserve any more credit for beating Cotto than GGG for beating Kell brook?
Would Canelo Alvarez have a better resume if he were to beat Guillermo Rigondeaux tomorrow? However, if GGG beat Floyd Mayweather tomorrow, would that be somehow deemed as something not deserving any credit?
I'd like to know why different standards are applied to GGG and other boxers like Canelo Alvarez?
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Canelo.
To be honest though, you could really spin it any way you wanted depending on your agenda. You could say Canelo got a gift v Lara. Got literally schooled by Floyd, so there's 2 losses right there. You could say Cotto was well past his sell by date when Canelo fought him. So which top fighters has he really beaten? He had a close fight with Trout but is he's not anything special anyway.
I'm not saying that though, but it's easy to spin it anyway you want. If you consider he got a gift v Lara, then his best win is either a faded mid 30's Cotto, or a close fight with Austin Trout.
That's probably still better than Golovkin's resume though. The lack of names has hardly been his fault though. Even Canelo himself was ducking him until he really couldn't anymore without destroying his reputation.
Neither guy has a spectacular resume really. Canelos is better but overrated. He has been in with better names, but lost one of them badly and got a gift in 1 of them and some of them well over the hill.
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Originally posted by satiev1 View PostGGG. Jacobs, lemieux, brook, and murray are all better wins than anyone canelo beat.
Even Canelo's past it fighters like Cintron are better than anybody GGG has beaten.
Brook was 2 classes out of his weight, Jacobs tapped that a$$, Lemieux is a f@cking bumskeet and Murray, did you fcuking say Murray for fcuks sake?
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A bigger + skilled opponent (Daniel Jacobs) > A smaller + skilled opponent (Erislandy Lara and Floyd Mayweather Jr) in terms of risk and the likelihood of losing.
By virtue of his size, Daniel Jacobs doesn't even need to be as skilled as Floyd Mayweather Jr. Just by being 30 pounds heavier than him, even if he's inferior to Floyd Mawyeather Jr by a factor of 2, his size make up for his slightly inferior skills. Hence the reason why someone like Andy Ruiz Jr would likely destroy Floyd Mayweather Jr in a boxing bout, despite being less skilled because his size make up for his inferior skills.
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