Comments Thread For: Roach: Not Sure If Pacquiao is Mad at Me - I Haven't Been Paid

[aboutfkntime]

The people on this forum can judge for themselves who provided the most factual Information.

Adults debate, your wee wanger? Are you 12? You sure do talk tough hiding at home behind a computer screen, but people like yourself are nothing but talk.

you provided bull****..... I provided PROOF !!

Pacquiao Will Agree To Drug Testing, With The 24-Day Cut
"The negotiations fell apart earlier this year when Mayweather refused to give Pacquiao a 24-day cut-off on the testing. Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off."
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427



first, you lie.....

then, you ignore evidence.....

and then, you refuse to answer a simple question.....

..... be honest, when Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests, he gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses.....

..... which one of those ridiculous excuses did you believe..... ?

serious question, why do you think Pac refused blood testing ?

I warned you that pacfan's should not to discuss 3 things.....

* opponent selection (cherry-picking)
* steroid abuse
* weight manipulation


so, we covered the cherry-picking, and the steroid abuse.....

.... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet....?

[ironmt]

you provided bull****..... I provided PROOF !!

Pacquiao Will Agree To Drug Testing, With The 24-Day Cut
"The negotiations fell apart earlier this year when Mayweather refused to give Pacquiao a 24-day cut-off on the testing. Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off."
http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27427



first, you lie.....

then, you ignore evidence.....

and then, you refuse to answer a simple question.....





I warned you that pacfan's should not to discuss 3 things.....

* opponent selection (cherry-picking)
* steroid abuse
* weight manipulation


so, we covered the cherry-picking, and the steroid abuse.....

.... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet....?

If I am a liar as you claim, feel free to refute any of the facts I provided you.

Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459

I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...quiao-lawsuit/

You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIQBcpHpSs From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Fact........While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?

The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?

[Spoon23]

Wow. good stuff IronMT. That got aboutfuvkntime roasting now..

[devildg]

when are people gonna realize that Roach is the problem

Arum was right to call him out for being a joke coach.

The man does absolutely nothing in terms of strategy. Nothing!!!

He should be lucky to be riding on Pacquiao's coattails all these years, enjoying the lifestyle he currently lives, ****ing hot young broads and getting his cut.

HOF coach my ass!!!

[aboutfkntime]

If I am a liar as you claim, feel free to refute any of the facts I provided you......

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459

your article is dated May 2010, the negotiation died in JANUARY

this is from YOUR link LOOOOOL

the fight died because..... " the two sides failed to reach an agreement for a March mega-fight. The issue of random drug testing was the root cause for the failed negotiations.
The two fighters were unable to agree on the cut-off date for the blood tests. Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off on the tests, while Pacquiao wanted the random drug testing protocol to end 24-days before the fight.


I tell you what I will do.....

despite the fact that you lied.....

and despite the fact that you totally ignored a MOUNTAIN of evidence incriminating Pacquiao, to focus on a childish innuendo with Mayweather.....

..... I will reply to the rubbish..... ooops, I mean "information" in your post.....

..... shortly, when I have more time

..... your " information " about Pac agreeing to a 14-day cut-off 5 months AFTER he had already killed the fight..... is amusing.....

..... who gives a fk what Pac agreed to AFTER he already killed the fight by ducking the tests..... it took another FIVE years to make that fight

[aboutfkntime]

If I am a liar as you claim, feel free to refute any of the facts I provided you.

you did not call me a liar when I made the post below

nor did you " refute any of the facts I provided you "

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned


2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?

so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

you ducked this post like Pac ducked the drug tests


I will reply to that other.,.... stuff..... soon.....

[ironmt]

kid.....

your article is dated May 2010, the negotiation died in JANUARY

this is from YOUR link LOOOOOL

the fight died because..... " the two sides failed to reach an agreement for a March mega-fight. The issue of random drug testing was the root cause for the failed negotiations.
The two fighters were unable to agree on the cut-off date for the blood tests. Mayweather wanted a 14-day cut-off on the tests, while Pacquiao wanted the random drug testing protocol to end 24-days before the fight.


I tell you what I will do.....

despite the fact that you lied.....

and despite the fact that you totally ignored a MOUNTAIN of evidence incriminating Pacquiao, to focus on a childish innuendo with Mayweather.....

..... I will reply to the rubbish..... ooops, I mean "information" in your post.....

..... shortly, when I have more time

..... your " information " about Pac agreeing to a 14-day cut-off 5 months AFTER he had already killed the fight..... is amusing.....

..... who gives a fk what Pac agreed to AFTER he already killed the fight by ducking the tests..... it took another FIVE years to make that fight you dumbass

You were buried b!tch, deal with It.

[GrandmasterWang]

If I am a liar as you claim, feel free to refute any of the facts I provided you.

Floyd didn't want anything to do with a prime Pacquiao, as a matter of fact this Is what he had to say.

“Health is more important than anything," “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Do the above statements sound like a guy that was eager to fight a prime Manny Pacquiao?

The first negotiations fell apart but later that very same year.........

http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...day-cut--27459

I also provided you with the link that clearly shows that Floyd was obligated to pay Pacquiao 114,00 for refusing to be questioned by Pacquiao's attorneys. Remember, you said I made that up?

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...quiao-lawsuit/

You also claimed that I made up the fact that Floyd gets Injections of XYLOCAINE which acts as a PED due to numbing of the hands. Here Is that link also............https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIQBcpHpSs From 1:39 on It Is particularly Interesting because Mayweather Is directly named as someone that has been Injected.

Fact......Floyd promised Margarito that he would fight him in the future when it made smarter business sense. Before that Floyd said he’d fight Margarito any time any where just as long as Bob Arum showed him the money.

Fact......Floyd said after the Mosley fight he wanted to fight the best, just line ’em up. Floyd has said numerous times he doesn’t duck or dodge anyone. Floyd called Miguel Cotto a “punching bag” and said that Cotto knew he couldn’t beat me, but when Cotto challenged Floyd to a fight in 2008, Floyd backed out and had Ellerbe tell the New York Post that Cotto’s PPV numbers weren’t good enough.

Fact........While desperately trying to duck Margarito with all his excuses and reasons in 2006, Floyd did not once ever insinuate or imply that Margarito was a cheater. But last week on Sirius Radio Shade 45 with DJ Whoo Kid, Mayweather revised his own duck tales and claimed he tried his best to alert the boxing world that Margarito was a cheater.

Fact..........In 2005, Mayweather called out Winky Wright. The details were hammered out: the bout would be at 154lbs but weigh-ins would be the morning of the bout rather than the day before and Wright would not be allowed to gain more than eight pounds between weighing in and the start of the contest. But Mayweather and Bob Arum suddenly pulled out, demanding changes to the purse-split and other such things until the bout was dead in the water. He chose to take on Sharmba Mitchell instead.

Fact............In 2007-08, Cotto was the next best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather. Instead of fighting Cotto he signed to fight a pointless rematch with De La Hoya. Mayweather ducked the 2007-2008 Cotto period.

Fact.............Castillo should have been given the victory In the first fight

Fact..............Oscar and Mosley were both on the downsides of their career. Same logic applies when Pacquiao fought them.

Fact..............The Hatton bout was at 147lbs rather than 140lb, where Hatton was more effective.

Fact..............Marquez had never fought above the 135-pound lightweight limit before fighting Floyd at 144 pounds. Mayweather was fined $300,000 per pound for weighing 146 pounds.

Fact........When asked about his advantages over opponents, Floyd told Tribune.com.ng, “Like I said before, I’ve never fought a guy at a catchweight. I don’t fight guys at catchweights. I don’t plaster my gloves. These are things I don’t do, because I’m not that type of guy.

Fact..........Floyd fought Cotto when he was past his best. Same logic applies to Pacquiao.

Fact........... Floyd forced Canelo to fight at a catch weight.

Fact.........Floyd Mayweather says he did NOT beat his baby mama in 2010 -- despite the fact he was CONVICTED -- claiming the woman has been lying through her teeth for years.

Fact...... Floyd told Brian Kenny he’s never seen Pacquiao fight (Floyd himself told me directly years earlier that Pacquiao was one of his favorite fighters to watch, “He packs a helluva punch,” said Floyd.)

Fact.........Floyd claims he Isn't racist, "It's total disrespect and today he came out and did it again," Mayweather said. "I don't care if it's white women, black women, white men, black men, Asian, Latina or Latino -- you don't disrespect people. Yet says the following, "As soon as we come off vacation, we're going to cook that little yellow chump. I'll make that mother f----- make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice."

Who has this man legitimately beat that was a prime fighter that he didn't force a catch weight on or who wasn't weight drained?

The two fights that you claim make Mayweather's resume equivalent to Pacquiao's(Canelo and Marquez) were fought at catch weights that benefited Floyd. Yes, the Marquez fight benefited Floyd being that It was his first fight above 135 pounds. So again, who on Floyd's resume tops Morales and Barrera?

Not sure I agree with every one of your "facts" but that was a decent smackdown you delivered to a biased fanboy.

Floyd was smart to duck Winky Wright, that would have been a terrible matchup for him.

[ironmt]

Not sure I agree with every one of your "facts" but that was a decent smackdown you delivered to a biased fanboy.

Floyd was smart to duck Winky Wright, that would have been a terrible matchup for him.

Thanks. Truthfully I would rather just get along as opposed to this back and forth but It gets sickening listening to this clown along with Robbie Barrett and a few others talk $h!t on a daily basis about Pacquiao when everything they accuse him of, Mayweather Is guilty of.

I agree, Winky Wright would have been a monster for Floyd.

[kadyo's]

This is an article from ringmag

BY MICHAEL WOODS

We got another installment in the “is there trouble in Pacman paradise” saga Tuesday, with Manny Pacquiao saying that he and his trainer hadn’t yet been paid by Top Rank for his unanimous-decision loss to Jeff Horn on July 5 in Australia.

Today we reached promoter Bob Arum, who told us that the issue is a non-issue. The Las Vegas-based deal-maker explained.
“We’d been sending emails, a bunch, to Team Pacquiao to tell us where to wire the money,” he said. “They didn’t respond until today (Wednesday). Once we got the response, we wired the money!”
Trainer Freddie Roach got the ball rolling on the issue when he wondered to Sports Illustrated whether Manny was irked at him because the fighter hadn’t paid him. Manny then spoke up and said Top Rank needed to cut Freddie a check.

“The fight was in Australia, it wasn’t a fight that happened in Las Vegas,” said Arum, explaining why fighter and trainer were getting antsy for their money. “We had to get money wired from where it was made, in Australia. And as soon as we did, we did our fiduciary responsibily, which was to find out where to wire it to.
“It was a non issue,” Arum said. “I blame Freddie for opening his mouth for no reason.”

Arum said an arrangement had been made to pay Roach through his agent, Nick Khan. Khan, Arum told me, told Top Rank to send a check to Freddie, rather than send the money by wire.

“We sent a check to Freddie this morning, by FedEx, and he got it this morning,” Arum said. “Freddie knew we were dealing with Nick Khan! All of this is truly, truly a non-issue. Everybody has the money they are entitled to, end of the story!”