Comments Thread For: Roach: Not Sure If Pacquiao is Mad at Me - I Haven't Been Paid

[Dosumpthin]

My reply was to another member asking me the following question

Answer this. No deflecting.

Do you think a fighter that has a history of using ILLEGAL DRUGS (Meth and Coke) as a PRO (Manny turned pro @ 16) all the way up "Until I became Champion" would be more likely or less likely to use Performance Enhancement Drugs?


Be honest with your answer.

The answer I gave had everything to do with why I feel that Floyd most likely took PEDS. It was Insinuated that because Pacquiao tried Illegal street drugs as a kid, that he most likely took Peds.

So If Floyd's family were drug addicts why should I not make the same Insinuations? You guys love to dish It out but when Floyd has done the same things as Manny and Is called out on It you get defensive. Just like you did when people were making fun of Floyd for not paying his taxes yet Manny had tax Issues and you had no problems making fun of him for It.

Why the double standards? Everything that you guys have complained and made fun of Pacquiao about, Floyd has done also.

I don't owe you a thing. Go to google type It In and their are pages that will verify everything I have said. Even with links you are the type of poster that has Floyd's di*k so far up your azz It blurs your vision and you would twist the Information and the links would become Irrelevant.

I have already gave you a direct link of the Mayweathers stating that they have never meant to make the accusation that Manny was on PEDS yet you, an absolute nothing, claims he was. So what good are the links?

The Mayweathers have backed off of their accusations and settled with Pacquiao financially, yet someone such as yourself who has no Inside Information and Is an absolute nothing In the over all scheme of things, knows better. I hate to break It to you, but you are just not as Important as you think you are. Grow up.

So you deflect.

Typical.

Let me correct you

1. "Tried street drugs as a professional fighter". Manny was using DRUGS UP UNTIL HE BECAME CHAMPION.

2. Maybe if Manny was exposed to the harsh realities of a mother on crack and a father serving time for a drug related sentence - just maybe he wouldve been deterred from using. Instead he found his morals in a lawless town called Manilla. A product of his environment.

3. The Mayweathers and Golden Boy were not in trail for peds. It was a defamation lawsuit they were going to lose. This is why you settle. To manage the amount of damages and not leave it up to the trail judge.

Had nothing to do with Floyd's personal testing. That doesn't win a defamation lawsuit you idiot. In fact USADA turned over the documentation requested.

Nevertheless, the outcome of thedefamation lawsuit doesn't not exonerate Manny from PED use. Just means there wasn't any proof.......HOWERVER


FACT: years later Manny admitted to using hardcore drugs as a professional fighter. What happens if he discloses that during the case?


I bet if you could review testimony Manny lawyers portrayed him as "drug free". What a ****ing scum bag.







cut off date my ass.

[ironmt]

So you deflect.

Typical.

Let me correct you

1. "Tried street drugs as a professional fighter". Manny was using DRUGS UP UNTIL HE BECAME CHAMPION.

2. Maybe if Manny was exposed to the harsh realities of a mother on crack and a father serving time for a drug related sentence - just maybe he wouldve been deterred from using. Instead he found his morals in a lawless town called Manilla. A product of his environment.

3. The Mayweathers and Golden Boy were not in trail for peds. It was a defamation lawsuit they were going to lose. This is why you settle. To manage the amount of damages and not leave it up to the trail judge.

Had nothing to do with Floyd's personal testing. That doesn't win a defamation lawsuit you idiot. In fact USADA turned over the documentation requested.

Nevertheless, the outcome of the defamation lawsuit doesn't not exonerate Manny from PED use. Just means there wasn't any proof.......HOWERVER


FACT: years later Manny admitted to using hardcore drugs as a professional fighter. What happens if he discloses that during the case?


I bet if you could review testimony Manny lawyers portrayed him as "drug free". What a ****ing scum bag.







cut off date my ass.

Exactly, so wouldn't It be best to shut the **** up about something that was never proven and unfounded..... having no foundation or basis in fact.



Has he ever tested positive for PEDS? A simple Yes Or No will suffice.

[Elroy The Great]

wow....people starting to think horn legit won

[Dosumpthin]

Exactly, so wouldn't It be best to shut the **** up about something that was never proven and unfounded..... having no foundation or basis in fact.



Has he ever tested positive for PEDS? A simple Yes Or No will suffice.

Due to Mannys lack of history and avoidance of random blood tesing, a simple answer would be irrelevant.



FACT : Manny admitted to using METH AND COKE "up until I became champion".

FACT: Do you realize METH and COKE are considered PEDS and he admitted to using them as a PROFESSIONAL BOXER? His 1st pro fight wasn't for a belt.

I have to wonder if they were even testing in the Philippines? What did they test for? During his amazing run NSAC weren't even blood testing. Definitely wasn't doing random anything.

Not to mention it is a FACT, and his own team admitted fault, 2009 negoitiations failed because of random blood testing.


QUESTION : What is Pacquiao boxing record and how does he perform when subject to random blood testing for those fights?



Unfounded you say? Not based on FACT you say?

[HennyBogan]

wow....people starting to think horn legit won

Yeah he won, judges decision counts and thats all that matters.

[Elroy The Great]

Yeah he won, judges decision counts and thats all that matters.

judges have spoken in every single certified robbery there ever was.

and theres been too many of them for my tastes.

pac won even though he ''didnt''.

[Elroy The Great]

if i were pac, id say ''fnck a horn. i won and im moving on to FINALLY take on a real fighter. if im going to lose or get robbed, it will be vs someone the people know.''

[ironmt]

Due to Mannys lack of history and avoidance of random blood tesing, a simple answer would be irrelevant.



FACT : Manny admitted to using METH AND COKE "up until I became champion".

FACT: Do you realize METH and COKE are considered PEDS and he admitted to using them as a PROFESSIONAL BOXER? His 1st pro fight wasn't for a belt.

I have to wonder if they were even testing in the Philippines? What did they test for? During his amazing run NSAC weren't even blood testing. Definitely wasn't doing random anything.

Not to mention it is a FACT, and his own team admitted fault, 2009 negoitiations failed because of random blood testing.


QUESTION : What is Pacquiao boxing record and how does he perform when subject to random blood testing for those fights?



Unfounded you say? Not based on FACT you say?

What do you like to call It again.............Deflecting?

Answer the question that I asked.

Has Pacquiao ever tested positive for PEDS? A simple Yes or No will suffice.

This really Isn't difficult. There Is only one correct answer.


Remember, red flags mean nothing. We have double standards here. I have given you numerous reasons as to why the majority would think that Mayweather was guilty of concealing PEDS. Yet you crusaders will not waiver In the fact that Floyd was not guilty when the evidence Is staring you In the face. If you were an honest unbiased poster you would have no problem admitting that Floyd's actions have been very su****ious. Instead you choose to fabricate reasons to defend him. At the end of the day, we will continue to go round and round.

[aboutfkntime]

My reply was to another member asking me the following question

Answer this. No deflecting.

Do you think a fighter that has a history of using ILLEGAL DRUGS (Meth and Coke) as a PRO (Manny turned pro @ 16) all the way up "Until I became Champion" would be more likely or less likely to use Performance Enhancement Drugs?


Be honest with your answer.

The answer I gave had everything to do with why I feel that Floyd most likely took PEDS. It was Insinuated that because Pacquiao tried Illegal street drugs as a kid, that he most likely took Peds.

So If Floyd's family were drug addicts why should I not make the same Insinuations? You guys love to dish It out but when Floyd has done the same things as Manny and Is called out on It you get defensive. Just like you did when people were making fun of Floyd for not paying his taxes yet Manny had tax Issues and you had no problems making fun of him for It.

Why the double standards? Everything that you guys have complained and made fun of Pacquiao about, Floyd has done also.

I don't owe you a thing. Go to google type It In and their are pages that will verify everything I have said. Even with links you are the type of poster that has Floyd's di*k so far up your azz It blurs your vision and you would twist the Information and the links would become Irrelevant.

I have already gave you a direct link of the Mayweathers stating that they have never meant to make the accusation that Manny was on PEDS yet you, an absolute nothing, claims he was. So what good are the links?

The Mayweathers have backed off of their accusations and settled with Pacquiao financially, yet someone such as yourself who has no Inside Information and Is an absolute nothing In the over all scheme of things, knows better. I hate to break It to you, but you are just not as Important as you think you are. Grow up.

hold on, Mr Subject Changer.....

you said this.....

" Pacquiao's final proposal, there would be unlimited urine testing, one scheduled blood test during the week of the kick off press conference, one random blood test up to 14 days before the fight "

FACT: let the record show, that was complete rubbish, you made that up

I told you that this subject has been done to death

what you did not realize is, it has been done to death by me

you picked the wrong guy to try that on, I remember exactly what happened




secondly.....

FACT: Mayweather losing in court, did not prove that Manny was clean

it proved that Mayweather could not prove that Pac was dirty

there is only one test that could have proved that Pac was clean, and he refused to take it

nothing you said changes one single fact in the post below

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned


2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?





so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

but you wish to ignore the MOUNTAIN of evidence above, and accuse Mayweather of steroid abuse because his father was a crack dealer..... which is random as fk

let me show you an example

answer your own question yourself.....

a fighter that has a history of using ILLEGAL DRUGS (Meth and Coke) as a PRO (Manny turned pro @ 16) all the way up "Until I became Champion" would be more likely or less likely to use Performance Enhancement Drugs?

..... if the answer is " yes ", then why are you ignoring Pacquiao and making up stories about Mayweather?

like I said on the other thread..... a pacfan should NEVER attempt to criticize Mayweather for.....

* opponent selection
* weight manipulation
* steroid abuse

..... because Pacquiao is MUCH worse !!

I would suggest that you criticize him for dressing like a f@g, and for smacking his b1tches around

[Dosumpthin]

What do you like to call It again.............Deflecting?

Answer the question that I asked.

Has Pacquiao ever tested positive for PEDS? A simple Yes or No will suffice.

This really Isn't difficult. There Is only one correct answer.


Remember, red flags mean nothing. We have double standards here. I have given you numerous reasons as to why the majority would think that Mayweather was guilty of concealing PEDS. Yet you crusaders will not waiver In the fact that Floyd was not guilty when the evidence Is staring you In the face. If you were an honest unbiased poster you would have no problem admitting that Floyd's actions have been very su****ious. Instead you choose to fabricate reasons to defend him. At the end of the day, we will continue to go round and round.

Pact@rd logic : Floyd geting convicted of domestic violence = red flag:

Then what color flag is it when Manny admits to using peds (meth,coke) early in his professional career?


Lmao.

Ya boy admitting to using banned substances is definitive proof he is guilty of using banned substances. That's not a red flag. And he's a liar.



"I maintain and assure everyone that I have not used any form or kind of steroids and that my way to the top is a result of hard work and a lot of blood spilled from my past battles in the ring, not outside of it,"

- Pacquiao in 2009 on defamation lawsuit

“I tried drugs ... many kinds of drugs, all kinds of drugs,” he said, before assuring reporters that phase of his life was over “before I became a champion.”
ide of it,"

-Pacquiao in 2016 on past drug use


That doesn't look good. Manny looks real bad. What happens if he spoke the exact same words in 2009?



Time reveals all.