Comments Thread For: Roach: Not Sure If Pacquiao is Mad at Me - I Haven't Been Paid

[ironmt]

I think you should stop debating them man. You have too much integrity to have waste time on them.

And you should have stopped replying when their replies were literally just.

"lalalala I can't hear you, Pacquiao drug cheat, PACF4G"

You are correct, they resorted to name calling as opposed to continue debating the facts after they were completely buried.

[Dosumpthin]

[QUOTE]

As I have said all along, If you are going to make accusations against one of them, you better be willing to point the finger at the other one also.

Cool. Can you answer this now???


Question: Why do you accuse Floyd of using xylocaine but ignore Mannys own use of xylocaine. Can you explain this?




Lidocaine, also known as xylocaine and lignocaine is a medication used to numb tissue in a specific area and to treat ventricular ...


Answer the question. Don't post Thomas Hauser articles with bullet points.


Answer the question. Don't deflect.


You criticised Floyd but not Manny for using xylocaine. Practice what you preach.

[Dosumpthin]

You are correct, they resorted to name calling as opposed to continue debating the facts after they were completely buried.

Lmao. Your such a *****.

[MoneyMatters]

Does Manny have shoulder injury that time? That is a lot of painkillers.

[DeadLikeMe]

Obviously Manny hasn't got a check yet or we'd have a story about Manny's Australia experiment being a smashing success every two hours by now...

[aboutfkntime]

Go back and read, I have said that all along. Your own words buried you long ago. I can bring them up If you would like.

clown, you were accusing Mayweather of steroid abuse on NUMEROUS threads..... I can bring them up If you would like.

so, if you truly believe this.....

As I have said all along, If you are going to make accusations against one of them, you better be willing to point the finger at the other one also.

..... then why did you ignore this..... ?

1)
FACT: Pac killed a SUPER-FIGHT by refusing random blood tests....
FACT: random blood tests are completely harmless
FACT: there is ONLY one reason to avoid random blood tests
FACT: in the amateurs, if you avoid/obstruct a drug test, you.....
* are immediately judged guilty
* you are stripped
* you are banned




2)
Pacquiao gave a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses to avoid random blood tests, which is beyond absurd..... we needed one genuine reason, but we got 8 childish excuses..... the only reason why we got 8 childish excuses, is because there was no genuine reason

then SUDDENLY, those 8 ridiculous excuses up and disappeared without a trace, and were never mentioned ONCE when Pac finally agreed to testing

come on kid, tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed..... this will be funny..... come on, tell us which one of those ridiculous excuses worked for you, so that we can see how you roll


3)
FACT: Pac has the 2nd highest recorded weight-gain in boxing history at 40lbs

the highest recorded weight-gain in recorded history is 41lbs....

and it was made by a HEAVYWEIGHT who used steroids to get there

FACT: Pacquiao is a fkn midget compared to Roy Jones Jnr..... when Jones gained 41lbs, he was cheating...... and yet when Pacquiao gained 40lbs, you think that he was clean..... right ?

it is soooo clearly obvious what happened, but not to you, right?

Pac is the size of one of Jones legs, you muppet


4)
immediately after the second Marquez fight, Manny Steward stated that Pac should consider retiring..... he said that Manny looked shopworn and had been in too many wars.....

Manny then linked up with Alex Ariza

immediately following Pac's next fight against David Diaz, Steward was gushing with praise, saying that Manny looked rejuvenated/revitalized, and a completely different fighter

and NO, Steward was not throwing Manny under a bus, he was simply commenting on what he saw

what happened next..... ? here, let me remind you.....

Pac then skipped through THREE DIVISIONS in 9 months, gaining 12lbs of muscle..... seemingly increasing his speed/power and (get this) punch output..... while looking as fresh as a daisy..... wtf?

you know absolutely nothing about boxing if that does not seem su****ious to you

Pac turned from a shopworn fighter, into a 1200+ punch dynamo, who (coincidentally) refused to test..... then, Pac just as suddenly reverted back into a normal 400-500 punch fighter who looked tired at the end of a fight, and (coincidentally) he suddenly had no problem taking blood tests

LMAO

5)
a number of knowledgeable insiders, all of which are extremely knowledgeable and extremely experienced, have stated that Pacquiao was juicing..... from Atlas to Mayweather to Malignaggi to Mosley, and a number of fighters in/around wildcard

it is only you who failed to notice..... why is that ?

so, we have covered the cherry-picking, and the steroids.....
..... are you ready to move on to the weight manipulation yet... ?

[ironmt]

[QUOTE=Dosumpthin;17871980]

Cool. Can you answer this now???


Question: Why do you accuse Floyd of using xylocaine but ignore Mannys own use of xylocaine. Can you explain this?




Lidocaine, also known as xylocaine and lignocaine is a medication used to numb tissue in a specific area and to treat ventricular ...


Answer the question. Don't post Thomas Hauser articles with bullet points.


Answer the question. Don't deflect.


You criticised Floyd but not Manny for using xylocaine. Practice what you preach.

The following should answer your question as to why Pacquiao was on these medications. They were actually approved by the same corrupt organization that approved Mayweather's Illegal IV(USADA). They were not approved on the night of the fight for Pacquiao, as they were Mayweather.

Today the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) have confirmed that, yes indeed, they were contacted by Team Pacquiao four weeks before the fight and informed that their man had sustained a significant rotary cuff injury in training. An MRI scan was provided which showed a tear extensive enough to warrant the use of Anti-Inflammatory injections as part of a pain management treatment. The USADA also confirmed that they approved the particular treatment and all its components. It was further confirmed that the tear had halted sparring in the Pacquiao camp, that a medical team supervised Pacquiao’s progress as the fight grew near and he was subject to only light training under treatment.

On the day of the fight, the Nevada State Athletic Commission was informed that Manny Pacquiao would be receiving pain killing injections prior to the bout. They were supplied with the USADA approval of the Anti-Inflammatory shots and Pacquiao prepared for the bout with his team. An official from the Commission was then tasked with informing Pacquiao that, due to the NSAC not being informed ‘in writing’ of the injury, they would not allow the pain management treatment to be administered. Arum immediately objected to this decision and Pacquiao’s own medical team attempted to intervene. The Commission felt that they had not been given enough time to assess the treatment…a course of Anti-Inflammatory pain management that had been entirely approved by USADA…and voiced concerns over the components of the treatment which included Lidocaine.

As many of you will know, Lidocaine has always been a controversial aspect of Floyd Mayweather’s career as he has special dispensation from NSAC to use the substance for damage to his hands. When Floyd stood up in the post-fight press conference and said that he had also suffered injury, his hands, in the build up to the fight, he forgot to mention that NSAC allowed him the use of Lidocaine as part of pain management and had refused Manny Pacquiao the same treatment.

Pacquiao had no business being on It either. Yet, on the night of the fight Floyd was allowed the lidocaine and Pacquiao was not.

[aboutfkntime]

A childish long winded post full of facts that you can't refute. Well since there was nothing su****ious about the IV, which most people would disagree, how about this..........

1. Both sides are claiming one won ‘t fight the other. Both are also saying the other fighter is the one not making the fight happen. But if we dig deeply, carefully remove and sift through the dirt and look for evidence, we will conclude, it is Floyd Mayweather Jr who is clearly without a doubt preventing this fight from happening.

2. It is his contradictions, false promises, and endless lies that has given it away. We all remember Floyd Jr’s telling the sports world, he compares himself to the great civil rights leader Malcolm X and Dr Martin Luther King Jr by crusading for better drug testing.

3. When both Floyd Mayweather Jr and Shane Mosley agreed to take Olympic Style Drug Testing, we all believed they will be subjected to the most stringent drug testing in the history of boxing.

4. One of the most intriguing pieces of data, both Shane and Floyd each took only 3 blood tests just before the fight and it ended 18 days prior to the fight.

5. So why is that significant? Well, we were all led to believe the purpose of random blood testing was to deter taking any possibility of PEDs all the way up to the fight.

6. We also thought both fighters will each have to submit at least 8 random blood test. It seems Floyd did not have single problem ending Shane’s blood testing 18 days prior to the fight

7. Floyd was comfortable with the idea with known steroid user Shane Mosley not being blood tested 18 days prior to the fight. Kind of risky, don’t you think?

8. Manny agreed to the demands and basically wanted the same treatment and consideration Shane got. But according to Floyd Jr, it is not good enough

9. It was good enough for steroid user Shane Mosley but not good enough for Manny Pacquiao who has never failed a single test for PEDs.

I guess Floyd meant what he said when It came to fighting a prime Pacquiao...........]

“My health is more important. I come first. Self-preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

I completely refuted that post, look.....

1) the IV was..... " the first time In his career "
2) the IV was..... approved/supervised by USADA
3) Mayweather was blood-tested immediately prior to the IV

CONCLUSION:

there is absolutely nothing su****ious whatsoever about that IV

..... If you are going to make accusations against one of them, you better be willing to point the finger at the other one also.....

[aboutfkntime]

The following should answer your question as to why Pacquiao was on these medications. They were actually approved by the same corrupt organization that approved Mayweather's Illegal IV(USADA). They were not approved on the night of the fight for Pacquiao, as they were Mayweather.

Today the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) have confirmed that, yes indeed, they were contacted by Team Pacquiao four weeks before the fight and informed that their man had sustained a significant rotary cuff injury in training. An MRI scan was provided which showed a tear extensive enough to warrant the use of Anti-Inflammatory injections as part of a pain management treatment. The USADA also confirmed that they approved the particular treatment and all its components. It was further confirmed that the tear had halted sparring in the Pacquiao camp, that a medical team supervised Pacquiao’s progress as the fight grew near and he was subject to only light training under treatment.

On the day of the fight, the Nevada State Athletic Commission was informed that Manny Pacquiao would be receiving pain killing injections prior to the bout. They were supplied with the USADA approval of the Anti-Inflammatory shots and Pacquiao prepared for the bout with his team. An official from the Commission was then tasked with informing Pacquiao that, due to the NSAC not being informed ‘in writing’ of the injury, they would not allow the pain management treatment to be administered. Arum immediately objected to this decision and Pacquiao’s own medical team attempted to intervene. The Commission felt that they had not been given enough time to assess the treatment…a course of Anti-Inflammatory pain management that had been entirely approved by USADA…and voiced concerns over the components of the treatment which included Lidocaine.

As many of you will know, Lidocaine has always been a controversial aspect of Floyd Mayweather’s career as he has special dispensation from NSAC to use the substance for damage to his hands. When Floyd stood up in the post-fight press conference and said that he had also suffered injury, his hands, in the build up to the fight, he forgot to mention that NSAC allowed him the use of Lidocaine as part of pain management and had refused Manny Pacquiao the same treatment.

Pacquiao had no business being on It either. Yet, on the night of the fight Floyd was allowed the lidocaine and Pacquiao was not.

this is Pacquiao's pre-fight medical questionnaire.....



..... so, why did he request Toradol again ?

[aboutfkntime]

silly pacstains should NEVER accuse other fighters of steroid abuse