Comments Thread For: Hearn Wants Joshua vs. Parker Unification By Mid-2018

[KillaCamNZ]

All this red tape is nothing more than a gimmick and smoke and mirrors in order for Anthony Joshua to hold on to his titles for just a little while longer. That's all. It's nothing more or nothing less. First, Wilder has to defeat Whyte in order to get his shot and now Parker has to defeat Fury in order to get his.

Trust me, Wilder would be more than obliging to go to U.K To knock A.J. Ass out. It's not a problem for him. As a matter of fact, it's no problem at all; Just not for Dillian Whyte. There's no guarantee he gets the AJ fight even if he does defeat him.

Unfortunately, there is no guarantee, you're right. But if Wilder is looking for a guarantee, he's in the wrong sport. AJ has two fights to get through before he can sign on for a Wilder fight - whether Wilder likes it or not, he has to wait. What he does in the meantime is up to him - take big money and lay the foundations for a likely unification, or stay at home and get a fraction of the pay to fight someone he's already beaten.

I'm no marketing guru, but I can tell which option is the better of the two. Fighting Whyte is better for Wilder in the short term (massive financial incentive), and better in the long term (kickstarts hype for a unification). If Wilder wants to be stubborn and turn that down, fine. But he needs to stop pretending Wilder-Joshua can be made tomorrow - it can't, it won't, so he needs to stop talking nonsense.

[Deus]

What about US PPV? That is where the money is at. Hearn knows this too, that's why he's sending Shyte over to the US to fight on the Crawford undercard on ESPN. He's priming the pump for a larger US invasion..

Oh I get that, but he's not going to simply turn his back on the UK fanbase just because he's trying to break the US. He wants both as that means even more money.

If he can get a big name US heavyweight (well, probably the only big name US heavyweight unless you count Miller who atm is just talk and no action) over here to appeal to the UK fans whilst also having the fight on Showtime in the US (granted it'd be mid afternoon so would probably be shown on a delayed screening) then he's getting the UK cash whilst raising his brand in the US at the same time readying to bring Joshua over for the big push to break the US.

That's the way I see it anyway.

All this red tape is nothing more than a gimmick and smoke and mirrors in order for Anthony Joshua to hold on to his titles for just a little while longer. That's all. It's nothing more or nothing less. First, Wilder has to defeat Whyte in order to get his shot and now Parker has to defeat Fury in order to get his.

Trust me, Wilder would be more than obliging to go to U.K, In order to knock A.J. Ass out. It's not a problem for him. As a matter of fact, it's no problem at all; Just not for Dillian Whyte because there's no guarantee he gets the AJ fight even if he does defeat him.

Again... B side doesn't get to call the shots. If Wilder is so confident then he's gonna have to jump through some hoops to get himself the fight. He either does what Hearn wants or he waits for Joshua to come calling, those are his options.

[KillaCamNZ]

Makes sense. If Joshua beats Wlad and Pulev and Parker beats Fury then maybe another UK guy, building his popularity over here.

Hearn was trying the same with Wilder and Whyte it seems.
He'll probably see if Parker is up for Bellew/Whyte.

That's exactly how I can see Parker getting a lead in to Joshua - through Bellew or Whyte first. Parker is going to have to fight at least one more time (after Fury) before Joshua is available, and a British "gauntlet" would create some serious hype for a unification.

[champion4ever]

Rude treatment? He's wanting the same thing from Wilder as he does Parker... you don't see Parker or his fans complaining about the opportunities, he's willingly coming to the UK to try and make a name for himself here.

I really don't get where this notion that the B-side (that is Wilder) dictates terms and why it's disrespectful that he doesn't comes from. That's how it's always been in boxing.

An in no way is Wilder ever going to be Joshua's next mandatory challenger 'regardless of any sanctioning body' as that defies the point of them fighting. The whole idea is to get a unified champion and thus unifications will happen when current champions will not get stripped. Next challenger once mandatories are dealt with would be acceptable and could end up being the case.

All this red tape is nothing more than a gimmick and smoke and mirrors in order for Anthony Joshua to hold on to his titles for just a little while longer. That's all. It's nothing more or nothing less. First, Wilder has to defeat Whyte in order to get his shot and now Parker has to defeat Fury in order to get his.

Trust me, Wilder would be more than obliging to go to U.K, In order to knock A.J. Ass out. It's not a problem for him. As a matter of fact, it's no problem at all; Just not for Dillian Whyte because there's no guarantee he gets the AJ fight even if he does defeat him.

[BWC]

It's an utterly pointless garbage fight to you... to the UK casual masses it is not.

You market to the lowest common denominator as they are what get you the PPV numbers, not the hardcores.


Rude treatment? He's wanting the same thing from Wilder as he does Parker... you don't see Parker or his fans complaining about the opportunities, he's willingly coming to the UK to try and make a name for himself here.

I really don't get where this notion that the B-side (that is Wilder) dictates terms and why it's disrespectful that he doesn't comes from. That's how it's always been in boxing.

An in no way is Wilder ever going to be Joshua's next mandatory challenger 'regardless of any sanctioning body' as that defies the point of them fighting. The whole idea is to get a unified champion and thus unifications will happen when current champions will not get stripped. Next challenger once mandatories are dealt with would be acceptable and could end up being the case.

What about US PPV? That is where the money is at. Hearn knows this too, that's why he's sending Shyte over to the US to fight on the Crawford undercard on ESPN. He's priming the pump for a larger US invasion..

[Deus]

Whyte-Wilder is an utterly pointless garbage fight. Big Baby-Whyte makes a lot more sense..

It's an utterly pointless garbage fight to you... to the UK casual masses it is not.

You market to the lowest common denominator as they are what get you the PPV numbers, not the hardcores.

Fine, just put it in writing that Wilder is Joshua's next mandatory challenger regardless of any sanctioning body, providing that he defeats Whyte and let's see what Hearn reaction would be? He will probably turn as red as a stop sign. He won't do it but it's ok. He's patronizing Wilder by being disrespectful. However, just wait till Ortiz get that ass. Then Deontay is going to remember this kind of rude treatment from Hearn.

Rude treatment? He's wanting the same thing from Wilder as he does Parker... you don't see Parker or his fans complaining about the opportunities, he's willingly coming to the UK to try and make a name for himself here.

I really don't get where this notion that the B-side (that is Wilder) dictates terms and why it's disrespectful that he doesn't comes from. That's how it's always been in boxing.

An in no way is Wilder ever going to be Joshua's next mandatory challenger 'regardless of any sanctioning body' as that defies the point of them fighting. The whole idea is to get a unified champion and thus unifications will happen when current champions will not get stripped. Next challenger once mandatories are dealt with would be acceptable and could end up being the case.

[champion4ever]

You must have missed the part where Hearn offered Wilder a chance to build the AJ fight by offering 4.5m to face Whyte, only Wilder refused.

Fine, just put it in writing that Wilder is Joshua's next mandatory challenger regardless of any sanctioning body, providing that he defeats Whyte and let's see what Hearn reaction would be? He will probably turn as red as a stop sign. He won't do it but it's ok. He's patronizing Wilder by being disrespectful. However, just wait till Ortiz get that ass. Then Deontay is going to remember this kind of rude treatment from Hearn.

[Chrismart]

Makes sense. If Joshua beats Wlad and Pulev and Parker beats Fury then maybe another UK guy, building his popularity over here.

Hearn was trying the same with Wilder and Whyte it seems.
He'll probably see if Parker is up for Bellew/Whyte.

[BWC]

You must have missed the part where Hearn offered Wilder a chance to build the AJ fight by offering 4.5m to face Whyte, only Wilder refused.

Best news I heard all day Parker is prepared to put it all on the line and unify versus AJ. Mega fight can't wait.

LOL that's the first time I've heard AJ-Parker described as a "mega-fight". It's a trash fight where AJ would be a massive favorite, over 20-1.

Everyone, including Hearn know the big fight is AJ-Wilder. He's just denying reality at this point..

[BWC]

Nowhere f he refuses to do any work to get the shot. He'll end up after Parker (so late 2018) when Joshua decides he wants to be the unified world heavyweight champion.

If Wilder was willing to face Whyte and make himself known to the UK audience so everyone here was clamouring for a Joshua v Wilder fight then Hearn would be talking about Wilder v Joshua rather than Parker v Joshua. Case in point:

"Certainly victories over Hughie Fury and Tony Bellew or Dillian Whyte would put Joseph in a brilliant position to earn a lot, a lot of money in the Anthony Joshua fight and put him in a position where that fight is a necessity rather than a potential fight."

Whyte wants to face Wilder. That fight would put Wilder at the forefront of the UK public's minds and thus would mean Wilder would be at the front of the queue. If Wilder doesn't take it he'll be sat waiting until after Parker, if he does take it there's no doubt he'll be ahead of Parker. Question is, is Wilder too arrogant/ignorant to accept that he is not the draw here and has to put the work in to get the shot he wants?

Whyte-Wilder is an utterly pointless garbage fight. Big Baby-Whyte makes a lot more sense..