Comments Thread For: Bivol Wants Cleverly, Breaks Down Kovalev's TKO Loss To Ward

[Bronx2245]

Bivol is not ready

Beterbiev and Gvozdyk are ready for Kovalev though

I agree, however if he feels he's ready for Ward, he might as well fight Kovalev.

[kafkod]

Lying piece of schit. The bet was if Jacobs won. Well Jacobs won. It should be you and your tampon gang that's gone

Get your lying arse TFOH!

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[Chollo Vista]

He is objectively dirty. Doesn't mean he's not also a great fighter. Hopkins and Wlad are two other recent examples of fighters who were undeniably dirty yet still widely respected

When calling Ward dirty, one thing you have to ask yourself. Does he know how to headbutt without cutting himself wide open?

[Beercules]

Seems like a well spoken dude.

[Citizen Koba]

That's your interpretation but that's not what he said. Either way, he sounds like the typical Ward hater who can't appreciate his skills but will quickly point out his "tactics." The technically exciting Rigondeaux held a guy behind his head while punching him and delivered a KO punch after the bell.

'Typical Ward hater'. You're equating a professional pro boxer who could potentially face Ward in the future with the kind of guy you find posting on boxing forums. It's hardly an uncommon opinion - in fact pretty much every fighter he's faced in the ring has complained about his 'veteran' tactics... Froch, Kessler, Bika (LOL) Barrera, Kovalev. If anyone has the right to say that surely it's other fighters. Or is it against the rules to make that kind of observation about the Son of God?

You don't think you're being just a bit overprotective? Bivol credits Ward his successes and with being a skilled and 'efficient' fighter - is that not enough?

EDIT: Also I'm 95% sure from the syntax and vocabulary that this is a translation and may contain a number colloquialisms. I'd be a little wary about imposing the same expectations you're used to on the exact phrasing used.

[HarvardBlue]

'Typical Ward hater'. You're equating a professional pro boxer who could potentially face Ward in the future with the kind of guy you find posting on boxing forums. It's hardly an uncommon opinion - in fact pretty much every fighter he's faced in the ring has complained about his 'veteran' tactics... Froch, Kessler, Bika (LOL) Barrera, Kovalev. If anyone has the right to say that surely it's other fighters. Or is it against the rules to make that kind of observation about the Son of God?

You don't think you're being just a bit overprotective? Bivol credits Ward his successes and with being a skilled and 'efficient' fighter - is that not enough?

EDIT: Also I'm 95% sure from the syntax and vocabulary that this is a translation and may contain a number colloquialisms. I'd be a little wary about imposing the same expectations you're used to on the exact phrasing used.

He said he didn't like Wards style, then he go on to say he's great statistically, and efficient. What's left for him not to to like? There are boxers that swear that all Mayweather does is run and refuse to fight. Sometimes the opinion of a fighter is just as boneheaded as the typical poster on here. You also mentioned fighters that lost to him having this opinion. The fact that Bivol did not fight him (hardly fought anyone TBH), yet is giving his opinion on Ward's style make him a tad bit more credible than you and I. So what he's a boxer? If I worked at a hospital it doesn't automatically mean I'm capable of performing open heart surgery.

If Ward was ONLY a "dirty fighter" he wouldn't have the kind of success he's having.

[Citizen Koba]

He said he didn't like Wards style, then he go on to say he's great statistically, and efficient. What's left for him not to to like? There are boxers that swear that all Mayweather does is run and refuse to fight. Sometimes the opinion of a fighter is just as boneheaded as the typical poster on here. You also mentioned fighters that lost to him having this opinion. The fact that Bivol did not fight him (hardly fought anyone TBH), yet is giving his opinion on Ward's style make him a tad bit more credible than you and I. So what he's a boxer? If I worked at a hospital it doesn't automatically mean I'm capable of performing open heart surgery.

If Ward was ONLY a "dirty fighter" he wouldn't have the kind of success he's having.

I don't think anyone said he was only a 'dirty fighter' or only uses 'veteran tactics' did they? Undoubtedly it does comprise a part of the complete package that has brought him success though - to say otherwise would be dishonest. And yeah - he says the style is effective but that he ain't a fan - what on earth is wrong with that? Yet you say that makes him a 'hater'... ain't there styles that you prefer less than others? Does that make you a hater?

[HarvardBlue]

I don't think anyone said he was only a 'dirty fighter' or only uses 'veteran tactics' did they? Undoubtedly it does comprise a part of the complete package that has brought him success though - to say otherwise would be dishonest. And yeah - he says the style is effective but that he ain't a fan - what on earth is wrong with that? Yet you say that makes him a 'hater'... ain't there styles that you prefer less than others? Does that make you a hater?

I don't deny the part of Wards game that some people find objectionable. However, I don't pretend that's the reason for his success. The people that don't like him will only highlight that part of his game. I equate the sentiments of the opponents that lost to him as a "dirty" fighter the same way I do Mayweather's opponents that say he was running or didn't fight the minute after they lost. The only reason I commented on Bivol is because his analysis didn't make sense. He says Kovalev lost the fight because of conditioning then mention other factors that blamed Ward and the ref. He says he's not a fan but the then says positive things. Maybe it's translation but he seems inconsistent.

I'm not a fan of styles I'm a fan of effectiveness and quality of competition.

[aboutfkntime]

I do not have a problem with anything Bivol said.

I actually thought he was pretty insightful/respectful.

posters who have mentioned other (lesser) fighters who criticize Ward by saying that he refuses to engage etc..... those guys emulated the wrong fighters early in their development, and are now set in their style

Hagler was a fearsome beast, but they should have been watching Leonard

the development of those high-level skills start as a kid

#skillspaythebills

[aboutfkntime]

I don't deny the part of Wards game that some people find objectionable. However, I don't pretend that's the reason for his success. The people that don't like him will only highlight that part of his game. I equate the sentiments of the opponents that lost to him as a "dirty" fighter the same way I do Mayweather's opponents that say he was running or didn't fight the minute after they lost. The only reason I commented on Bivol is because his analysis didn't make sense. He says Kovalev lost the fight because of conditioning then mention other factors that blamed Ward and the ref. He says he's not a fan but the then says positive things. Maybe it's translation but he seems inconsistent.

I'm not a fan of styles I'm a fan of effectiveness and quality of competition.

I think that Ward fans are being a little touchy

however, I definitely agree with the bold

good point, and good post

personally I think Bivol covered everything quite well

he acknowledged Ward..... (which is something that other fighters/fans simply cannot bring themselves to do)..... whilst admitting that he does not favor his style/tactics

people can " favor " whatever they want

but, they should do it quietly unless they happen to be of Bivol's standing..... who is qualified to say whatever he likes..... until it comes time to face Ward, of course..... then he will have to contend with the things he favors - or does not favor - just like everyone else