PED's of today are in and out of your system within hours

[nacho daddy]

I agree but this goes back even further. Evander Holyfield was using HGH hormone from the start of his career until the end and he was never caught till recently. PEDS are getting harder and harder to detect. Hopefully technology catches up and bans these bastards.

holyfield was an android where the HGH made his forehead into a battering ram looked like a cavemans forehead

[otrocubiche]

While competing, Lance Armstrong was the most tested athlete in the world and never failed a drug test, all the while getting ped's for years. There will always be new drugs that the labs would take some time, even years to create tests for them.

[Shape up]

So USADA is corrupt? Why would he need to mask PEDs if USADA are in his pocket? Why would USADA release the info that he even had an IV?

Mayweather never requested that. USADA already said Mayweather didn't request any changes to the rules, only Pacquiao did.

Correct, if he's tested and the first test fails, he then has a TUE and the b sample is never tested, he's in the clear, even usada themselves has said there must have been DCOs on the take with Armstrong, why not mayweather

[Robbie Barrett]

Correct, if he's tested and the first test fails, he then has a TUE and the b sample is never tested, he's in the clear, even usada themselves has said there must have been DCOs on the take with Armstrong, why not mayweather

Why would he need to mask them then?

How would he get a TUE for banned substance when it's an independent panel of doctors that decide if it's granted or not?

Why wouldn't the B sample be tested?

Why didn't this DCO just cover up the IV?

You're just throwing around conspiracy theories that make no sense.

[Shape up]

That article is very misleading and old. Just to point out a few things:

1. ABP is not foolproof or to be used as a stand alone testing, however Its still the most effective and efficient DETERRENT.

2. The writer acknowledges he was not subjected to target testing. So high profile athletes would be taking a huge risk.

3. If ABP thresholds are tightened - athletes will be forced to change their routine - which can trigger an adverse analytical finding for distorted values - which leads to target testing or a flat out doping violation.

4. Eventually as ABP improves, athletes will have to microdose at such decreased amounts - it will not enhance their performance enough to justify the risk of doping.

5. The article about "chugging water", if you read it in the end it states distorted ABP values can still lead to a doping violation. LOL. Didn't catch that huh? Nevermind the fact chugging water doesn't do anything for targeted testing.

The questionnaire about - "did the dco see them drink water excessively" just means the athlete will be target tested and/or would be used against them as additional evidence in the event charges are brought up for INTENTIONALLY distorting values as per WADA rules.



Nice try though.

Eventually as the ABP is a big statement, the fact this guy could get away with it shows how useless it really is, add the fact that people like floyd can have 750ml of liquid through an IV, have a partial test done and pass makes this drug testing a joke in every sense of the word, this was floyd getting another advantage over his opposition while trying to look the hero, exact game plan Armstrong had

[NC Uppercut]

HGH could be undetectable if used correctly and in timely manner.



http://anabolic.co/steroids/how-long...n-your-system/

Kev- is dropping knowledge & links. Do your thing bro

[-Kev-]

That's good article and shows that detection time is much greater than the time the drug stays active. Which I think you're getting confused with in your OP.

I highlighted the wrong thing, if you read the entire page you can seen many of the do's and don't of PED's. Which one's you need to stay away from due to how long they stay in your system, and which one's you want to use because of how fast they leave the system.

Keep in mind, Anthony Boesch was giving A-Rod and Gamboa completely undetectable ped's. Remember, they were never actually caught using it, they were snitched on by Boesch. A-Rod didn't give Boesch the requested fee to keep it quiet so he snitched. Otherwise no test would catch those testosterone gummies.

[-Kev-]

So, how did Povetkin get caught? hmmmm

Read the ped's he took and look up their half life. He was probably taking hardcore drugs.

[Dosumpthin]

Eventually as the ABP is a big statement, the fact this guy could get away with it shows how useless it really is, add the fact that people like floyd can have 750ml of liquid through an IV, have a partial test done and pass makes this drug testing a joke in every sense of the word, this was floyd getting another advantage over his opposition while trying to look the hero, exact game plan Armstrong had

It's apparent you have no idea what your talking about and your ignorance on the subject matter of testing prevents a meaningful debate.

[-Kev-]

I like how the whole point of the thread flies over some people's heads. While you are all pointing fingers at the fighters you hate, the real point of thread is that anyone...my fave, your fave...can cheat and get away with it. This is basically a response thread to all the ****** PED threads lingering around here pointing fingers. IF you are accusing one fighter of cheating and getting away with it, put some respek on your name and admit that any fighter could do it. Or else you're just a troll who shouldn't be taken seriously.