Comments Thread For: Sanchez: Golovkin Declining? Big Surprise in Canelo Fight!

[Mammoth]

He fought Trout who arguably had one noteworthy fight on his resume at the time, he fought Lara who I have credited him with, he showed up to collect a check vs Floyd (he was the Chavez Jr of that fight), he fought a 39 year old Mosley and a 35/36 year old Cotto.

Lara - Lara wasn't going to win that fight fairly but took him 12
Trout - One notable win and hasn't done shhh since but took him 12
Cotto - Too small and way too old and still took him twelve
Mosley - Too old, too slow, too punch drunk, and still took him 12
Floyd - Lost every single second of that fight, literally every second of the fight...hell Berto did better than Canelo vs Floyd.

So again what exactly has Canelo done? Who has Canelo beaten fairly that's actually an elite fighter and not washed up? NOBODY. I guess we should overlook the blown up WW's he's also fought. For all this he's fought the best, in what now 51 fights..51!!!! He's got one win over an elite fighter in their prime and it was a controversial win..1!

Canelo and Golovkin are legit and this fight is legit. Both have defensive flaws. GGG gets hit too much, Canelo can't be on the ropes for this. We'll see what happens September. Everybody needs to calm down.

[icha]

Fought them all? LOL ok let's rewrite history. Why didn't he fight the best people at 154 in recent years? It's either they are too good or ole reliable "they are haymon fighters." As I said i'll take bets it never happens just like he ain't ever going to fight either of the Charlo brothers.

he fought the ones people asked for, none asking for charlos or andrade , besides those dont bring anything to the table, people said he will never fight trout, he fought him, he will never fight lara and fought him, he will never fight ggg and will fight him, and by the way lara is the best at 154, and ggg is the best at 160, so there goes that... if a few fans said he had to fight k9 and he doesnt, it doesnt mean he ducked... same aplies to every other fighter... top guys wont fight each other but canelo has to fight each one or else he is ducking lol... the next boogeyman will come and canelo will take care , like he has done before...

[Vlad_]

Post fight comments by the canelo turds. " Canelo was never a true 160 lber." GGG has yet to fight a name. When will he move up to 168 lbs. Canelo win dosen't do much for his legacy. I can see it already.

Haha, they're gonna start calling a bum and a cherry pick.

[turnedup]

he fought the ones people asked for, none asking for charlos or andrade , besides those dont bring anything to the table, people said he will never fight trout, he fought him, he will never fight lara and fought him, he will never fight ggg and will fight him, and by the way lara is the best at 154, and ggg is the best at 160, so there goes that... if a few fans said he had to fight k9 and he doesnt, it doesnt mean he ducked... same aplies to every other fighter... top guys wont fight each other but canelo has to fight each one or else he is ducking lol... the next boogeyman will come and canelo will take care , like he has done before...

So now its what the people asked for? Grasping at straws much? Who asked him to fight Kirkland? Lopez? Mosley? Smith? Khan? Not a goddamn person. He fought Lara because just like Golovkin people wouldn't stop sh**ting on him about not fighting them every time he stepped out in public and even then it took Jacobs not getting KTFO in order for them to make the fight. It's funny because ya'll are so sure of yourselves that Canelo wins this fight yet i've seen countless people asking for account bets and nobody manning up to take the bet. You so sure about it cool, but one of ya'll needs to step up and put your money where your mouth is. The rest of us know its boxing and nothing is ever certain. There are no guaranteed wins but I can guarantee you this...Canelo is about to be in for the fight of his life as will Golovkin. Same ******s that said Jacobs was a cherry pick, same morons who came the next day after the fight and made him a god. I called that fight as a tough one for both men and guess what...well we know what happened. Golovkin is not Canelo's boogeyman and only an imbecile thinks real Golovkin fans think of it in that fashion. The casuals here on both sides are full of shhh but again not one of them is going to put up anything of value for their favorite fighter. Lara is not the best at 154 and never was, Lara is a special talent but one that can be neutralized, hell look at his opponents as of late as well. He's happy getting the check still fighting nobodies meanwhile another class of fighters has graduated and is certainly already elapsing him...but nice try.

[TheSlickster]

Finally! someone who has common sense! Golovkin was exposed by Brook and Jacobs, with Jacobs beating him easily. Canelo will expose him. Reminds me of Garcia vs Matthyse, No one gave Garcia a chance, expected a KO then look at Garcia. Canelo by KO 10th round.

Golovkin is far better technically than Matthyse is. Garcia gets full credit for that fight BUT you have to take into account multiple factors:
1) Garcia was taller, had the longer reach and a solid chin
2) Golovkin is still undefeated. How did he get exposed? He beat Jacobs in a very close fight
3) A good deal of boxers are saying Canelo beats GGG but i feel its more of faith and overestimating Canelo.

[TheSlickster]

Listen to this ass hole try to force Canelo into his gameplan by making it seem like Canelo has to ******ly fight like Lemieux or any which way. If it gets him the win canelos fans will be fine with whatever strategy he uses. This is beyond pathetic now the new lows this maggot reaches daily.

He has resorted to weak mind games in a pathetic attempt to force his 1st true test into not fighting however most increases his chance at victory. Canelos always been a counter puncher foremost,hes not a lumule type bull who ******ly charges forward or open. Sanchez is aware that ggg only KO's 1 dimensional fighters with no power & shît defense.

Canelo has amazing upper body movement,& neutralises power punchers because of it. Gggs only chance is if canelo doesnt Focus on defense early rds,I expect him to tire ggg out by 6th rd,after ggg cant ko someone he gets real tired. Canelo will work the body early,& slowly cut gggs eyes until an easy UD.

That is definitely not true. GGG has KO'd fighters of a variety of styles. Guys who come forward, defensive fighters, light feet fighters, etc. Canelo has great upper body movement BUT its vulnerable to a stiff committed jab which is a counter puncher's worst nightmare. For Canelo to work the body and get to GGG, he will have to get in the danger zone and out. If Canelo had light feet, sure can move in and out and possibly beat GGG to the punch BUT he doesn't have the attributes to do that. He prefers to plant his feet, counter and unload in spurts. It will take up energy for him to do what he's not familiar with. I just can't see it happening. Skills pay the bills but its a matter of the right skills to beat GGG which Canelo lacks that giving GGG problems

[icha]

So now its what the people asked for? Grasping at straws much? Who asked him to fight Kirkland? Lopez? Mosley? Smith? Khan? Not a goddamn person. He fought Lara because just like Golovkin people wouldn't stop sh**ting on him about not fighting them every time he stepped out in public and even then it took Jacobs not getting KTFO in order for them to make the fight. It's funny because ya'll are so sure of yourselves that Canelo wins this fight yet i've seen countless people asking for account bets and nobody manning up to take the bet. You so sure about it cool, but one of ya'll needs to step up and put your money where your mouth is. The rest of us know its boxing and nothing is ever certain. There are no guaranteed wins but I can guarantee you this...Canelo is about to be in for the fight of his life as will Golovkin. Same ******s that said Jacobs was a cherry pick, same morons who came the next day after the fight and made him a god. I called that fight as a tough one for both men and guess what...well we know what happened. Golovkin is not Canelo's boogeyman and only an imbecile thinks real Golovkin fans think of it in that fashion. The casuals here on both sides are full of shhh but again not one of them is going to put up anything of value for their favorite fighter. Lara is not the best at 154 and never was, Lara is a special talent but one that can be neutralized, hell look at his opponents as of late as well. He's happy getting the check still fighting nobodies meanwhile another class of fighters has graduated and is certainly already elapsing him...but nice try.

so who asked for charlo or andrade???
lara is a level above charlo, just ask austin trout...
anyway when i said fought them all i was talking about the ones most people wanted him to fight... he was never entotled to fight guys that will refuse to fight other top guys, like you said canelo also fought other guys that werent at the top of the rank, but everyone does that, none of the guys at the top did anything to claim a canelo fight, canelo has gone out of his way to make though fights happen, he fough lara when lara was already contracted to fight liam smith, so is unfair that you guys are calling ducks already and saying that canelo will use the haymon excuse... canelo is in a tougher fight vs ggg, charlo hasnt really proved to be at that level yet, but if it happens i will bet my account with you no problem...

[aboutfkntime]

He fought Trout who arguably had one noteworthy fight on his resume at the time, he fought Lara who I have credited him with, he showed up to collect a check vs Floyd (he was the Chavez Jr of that fight), he fought a 39 year old Mosley and a 35/36 year old Cotto.

Lara - Lara wasn't going to win that fight fairly but took him 12
Trout - One notable win and hasn't done shhh since but took him 12
Cotto - Too small and way too old and still took him twelve
Mosley - Too old, too slow, too punch drunk, and still took him 12
Floyd - Lost every single second of that fight, literally every second of the fight...hell Berto did better than Canelo vs Floyd.

So again what exactly has Canelo done? Who has Canelo beaten fairly that's actually an elite fighter and not washed up? NOBODY. I guess we should overlook the blown up WW's he's also fought. For all this he's fought the best, in what now 51 fights..51!!!! He's got one win over an elite fighter in their prime and it was a controversial win..1!

translated.....

Canelo fought the FOUR best JMW's CONSECUTIVELY

and yet, you still managed to find something to whine about

He's got one win over an elite fighter in their prime and it was a controversial win..1!

and, Golovkin has got one win over a fighter who is NOT elite, in their prime and it was a controversial win..1!

so..... why are you singling out 25yo Canelo ?

Canelo fought the FOUR best guys in his division...... one of them being the very best fighter on the planet..... and he then moved up a division to face the supposed 160lb killer Golovkin

when has Golovkin ever done anything even remotely close?

all I am saying is, of those two fighters..... why are you singling out the guy who has stepped up on multiple occasions, rather than addressing the supposed killer who had to be forced to fight Jacobs, his only A-level (controversial) scalp?

[aboutfkntime]

he fought the ones people asked for, none asking for charlos or andrade , besides those dont bring anything to the table, people said he will never fight trout, he fought him, he will never fight lara and fought him, he will never fight ggg and will fight him, and by the way lara is the best at 154, and ggg is the best at 160, so there goes that... if a few fans said he had to fight k9 and he doesnt, it doesnt mean he ducked... same aplies to every other fighter... top guys wont fight each other but canelo has to fight each one or else he is ducking lol... the next boogeyman will come and canelo will take care , like he has done before...

GREAT post, as usual !!

[turnedup]

so who asked for charlo or andrade???
lara is a level above charlo, just ask austin trout...
anyway when i said fought them all i was talking about the ones most people wanted him to fight... he was never entotled to fight guys that will refuse to fight other top guys, like you said canelo also fought other guys that werent at the top of the rank, but everyone does that, none of the guys at the top did anything to claim a canelo fight, canelo has gone out of his way to make though fights happen, he fough lara when lara was already contracted to fight liam smith, so is unfair that you guys are calling ducks already and saying that canelo will use the haymon excuse... canelo is in a tougher fight vs ggg, charlo hasnt really proved to be at that level yet, but if it happens i will bet my account with you no problem...

Go and ask him and get back to me, I love how folks to win arguments on here put words in people's mouths they haven't actually stated.