Anthony Joshua Reveals How A Fight With Mike Tyson Would Go

[juggernaut666]

See you didn't answer the question. Why is the lighter Lewis proven not to be a puncher on the back of Murphy and Ocasio, but the same weight Lewis knocks out Ruddock in two rounds. A world class heavyweight. What the hell has Paterson got to do with anything. Ruddock stalked Lewis for one round, was floored by one punch, and then flattened in the second. This wasn't stylistic. This was Lewis punching hard. The same Lewis knocked out Derek Williams, Biggs and stopped Mason. The fact that Weaver was old doesn't change that it was a one punch knockout. He floored Biggs again an again. You said he wasn't a puncher. Rubbish. Then you try some garbage about Tyson Ruddock. We're talking about Lewis not hitting hard at 225 and there abouts, and then I point out that he stops all these world class heavies and you change the subject. This is what you do. Bruno was more dangerous than Weaver? Did I sat otherwise? Bruno was 225 against Tyson and wobbled him. He smashed guys early in hes career. At a lighter weight, coz he was a puncher. Weaver, was a good puncher too. Flattened Tate and Carl Williams. But who was comparin Weaver and Bruno. Evander Holyfield quote : "Rid**** Bowe was the most complete big man I fought". Explain this comment in the context of being crazy to think he was more skilled that Evander. Actually explain this. Bowes best win at about 230? How about Evander Holyfield one? The only one being mugged here is you. You don't agree with the quotes of actual fighters, hall of fame trainers or the results of fights. I get it, you want to be right. You might not have enough seen the Price fight but I was there. Course, anytime the bulk leads to these guys gassing, which is almost always its "wrong training". Abit vague.You think more weight helps durability and power. I think it helps neither and sapps stamina, it's always been my position. It's wrong training and the wrong approach. Bigger is better. Bodybuilder bull****. I don't coward from nothing, I live in Peckham, boxed in the Lynn and the Henry Cooper, famous boxing gyms . I was trained by the Simms and Lloyd Honeygan. I trained with Darren Dyer, Danny Williams, Henry Akinwande. I still train and spar at Keddles gym, boxing and mma. We've got Dillian Whyte here, Jimi Manuwa, plenty of good boxers and a truckload of reality. Your wrong, keep changing the subject and miss me more with every moment. I don't want you to stop at all, it's what you keep saying youre gonna do. Have a look back if you ever forgotten. Fire away..

"Why is the lighter Lewis proven not to be a puncher on the back of Murphy and Ocasio, "

Lewis was not lighter for Ruddock so why are you keep making your own weights up? You even labled Davaryl Williams at 205 when he was 217 . Lewis started to get in the 230's right after Ruddock who also accussed him of possible steroid use ,do you think he was as skinny as he was when he fought the guys you are TRYING Tto claim he was the same weight ?

"We're talking about Lewis not hitting hard at 225 and there abouts, "

No you are using straw man logic that weight has no impact on power ,you didnt even know the significance of Patterson when THE trainer is the most important thing yet you claim all this knowledge ?


If you keep this up i will have to demote you to D class trolling !

[juggernaut666]

Misrepresentation of what I said. Just said Joshua's weight didn't give him any edge over Tysons other big opponents in terms of durability, or an edge over the punchers he fought in terms of power. Nowhere did I say Joshua should weigh 220lb either . Show where I said that or show yourself as a liar. I said Whyte should weigh 225.You said 225 Whyte gets run over by Joshua within three due to weight. So I proved that similar size Wlad got crushed by two 225lbders.Proof superheavies are vulnerable to mid size heavies. Coz the weight don't mean nothing. Seemingly you have to drop my name to others so badly does the truth sting.

The only thing that stings is my eyes after reading long jibberish of someone who doesnt know how to use paragraphs !

[bluepete]

Everyone says this wasn't prime Tyson when it was. It don't matter if he had the same trainer or not. He came in and did the exact same thing and simply didn't get the same result because of what Douglas brought to the table that night. Size, skill, a good jab and a lot of determination. Joshua has more of those things than Douglas ever dreamed of.

That said.....I think Tyson knocked Douglas out and the count was too long.

He wasn't prime and he didn't fight the same at all. He wasn't in shape and he never showed the same formula post Rooney. It just never happened. Joshua doesn't Jab or move like Douglas, he's much stiffer and not a fluid. Douglas done it all off he's jab, double jab. Joshua isn't similar in any way.

[bluepete]

Lewis was not lighter for Ruddock so why are you keep making your own weights up? You even labled Davaryl Williams at 205 when he was 217 . Lewis started to get in the 230's right after Ruddock who also accussed him of possible steroid use ,do you think he was as skinny as he was when he fought the guys you are TRYING Tto claim he was the same weight ?

If you keep this up i will have to demote you to D class trolling !

Lewis weighed 227 for Ruddock. This is indisputable. A solid checkable fact. Are you saying Lewis didn't weigh 227 for that fight? Lighter than when he fought Dan Murphy. Check it out. So what of he weighed in the 230s after Ruddock. He was light for the Ruddock knockout, which was the best win of he's first reign and one of he's best performances. You don't make much sense with the last bit but Ruddock also accused Tyson of taking steroids. It's on record. So what? He said it alot.

[bluepete]

"Why is the lighter Lewis proven not to be a puncher on the back of Murphy and Ocasio, "

Lewis was not lighter for Ruddock so why are you keep making your own weights up? You even labled Davaryl Williams at 205 when he was 217 . Lewis started to get in the 230's right after Ruddock who also accussed him of possible steroid use ,do you think he was as skinny as he was when he fought the guys you are TRYING Tto claim he was the same weight ?

"We're talking about Lewis not hitting hard at 225 and there abouts, "

No you are using straw man logic that weight has no impact on power ,you didnt even know the significance of Patterson when THE trainer is the most important thing yet you claim all this knowledge ?


If you keep this up i will have to demote you to D class trolling !

Rubbish, he was lighter than the Murphy fight. 16 stone 6 for Murphy. 16 3 for Ruddock. Fact.

[juggernaut666]

Lewis weighed 227 for Ruddock. This is indisputable. A solid checkable fact. Are you saying Lewis didn't weigh 227 for that fight? Lighter than when he fought Dan Murphy. Check it out. So what of he weighed in the 230s after Ruddock. He was light for the Ruddock knockout, which was the best win of he's first reign and one of he's best performances. You don't make much sense with the last bit but Ruddock also accused Tyson of taking steroids. It's on record. So what? He said it alot.

Lewis was under 225 for those other fights you suggested ,is that lighter or heavier than 227/228 ?

He was also over 240 in the other examples i gave like Briggs !

I already went over the Ruddock fight take a seat pete and take the L,you are losing it !

[bluepete]

The only thing that stings is my eyes after reading long jibberish of someone who doesnt know how to use paragraphs !

I was waiting for a comment on the way I typed or maybe a spelling mistake. This always happens when someone is losing an argument. What I'm waiting for is an explanation of Wlad Sanders and Wlad Brewster. And why the theory of the superheavy edge over the 225ers didn't work.

[Boxing Goat]

He wasn't prime and he didn't fight the same at all. He wasn't in shape and he never showed the same formula post Rooney. It just never happened. Joshua doesn't Jab or move like Douglas, he's much stiffer and not a fluid. Douglas done it all off he's jab, double jab. Joshua isn't similar in any way.

Tyson was in shape. That's a load of crap. He weighed almost exactly the same as he did when he won the title and looked the exact same and was at a prime age, so don't give me that bullsh@t.

And he fought just how he always had. It simply didn't work.

Now I'm convinced you didn't watch the fight if you say he didn't do what he always did. Tyson was just a one trick pony, which is why he got exposed. It was always going to happen. He wouldn't have made in the post Lennox era for any stretch.

Joshua was just being respectful to a legend. Nothing more.

[Boxing Goat]

I was waiting for a comment on the way I typed or maybe a spelling mistake. This always happens when someone is losing an argument. What I'm waiting for is an explanation of Wlad Sanders and Wlad Brewster. And why the theory of the superheavy edge over the 225ers didn't work.

It made you shore up your punctuation didn't it? I call that a Juggernaut win

[bluepete]

Lewis was under 225 for those other fights you suggested ,is that lighter or heavier than 227/228 ?

He was also over240 in the other examples you gave like Briggs !

Look up Lewis Murphy on YouTube. Then tell me Lewis was under 225 again. And I know he weighed 240 for Briggs. I said he was light when he fought Biggs. And Mason. And Williams. And Weaver. And Ruddock. You know, when he didn't have a good enough punch.