Anthony Joshua Reveals How A Fight With Mike Tyson Would Go

[GoldenGloveLove]

Maybe but you give respect to those who came before you.

For sure, and I appreciate that, I just don't read anymore into it than that.

[juggernaut666]

Tony Tucker was 6'5", Carl Williams 6'4", Mitch Green 6'5", Jose Ribalta 6'5" and a few others. Height and size were not a problem for Mike. He will get inside and negate the reach and he was very powerful himself.

joshua has 25 pounds on those guys.Tysons k.o percentage went down drastically with guys over 230 lets not pretend fighting joshua wouldnt create a great fight.

[juggernaut666]

You said that Tyson hadn't fought any good fighters over 6foot 3 so I named some. It's abit early to know how good Joshua is from a win over a 41 year old Klitschko. Certainly I wouldn't worry about Joshua's frame like I said, and he's power wouldn't mean much against Tysons head movement at he's peak. Certainly there's nothing to suggest he's power is in a different league to the likes of Smith, Ruddock or Bruno at this stage. Surely you can see both Biggs and Tucker were more nimble than Josh, who carries another 20lb on he's frame. I don't know where you get the idea that Joshua has anything like comparable speed to Tyson, of hand or foot.Guys like Biggs, Tucker, Thomas all had jabs at least as fast and educated as Josh. Your not telling me avoiding 40 years old Klitschkos low output offense is anything like avoiding Tysons smothering combination punches. He set up fast shots to the head with great body shots. When was the last time Wlad worked the body. The left uppercut that caught Mike from Tucker caught him off balance, certainly didn't rock him like Whyte did to Joshua. Just look at the difference in pace between them. Joshua bounces in and out ok for a big man, but nothing like the speed of foot Tucker showed to keep him in the fight. Mike might well outjab Joshua too ala Tucker. Right now there's nothing on Joshuas record, including 41 year old Wlad, that indicates he competes well with 80s Iron Mike.

"You said that Tyson hadn't fought any good fighters over 6foot 3 so I named some"

now your just trying to twist an angle which i never stated....

Ruddock/Tucker/biggs and Bruno were good fighters...they WERENT Joshua.Whos to say who rocked who and who hit harder...was Tucker a big puncher bc at 230 or so pounds he doesnt seem to be and whyte has about 20 pounds on him and throwing hooks have greater impact because they use more shoulder in the punch.

i wasnt compariing Joshua speed to Tyson ...YOU stated Joshua was slower than the other guys he fought and thats FALSE.

what is true he hes the fastest 240 plus guy after Klitchko per punch...and as stated for combo punching he is faster than any SHW thus far.

Tucker did not catch Tyson off balance he caught him flush coming straight in ,you are making up things here.Tysons only weakness was actually the uppercut which is Joshuas best punch and knows how to set that up very well.He wouldnt rely on just Tyson walking into it,hes good enough to stand his ground and land it.

who cares if Tyson out jabs Joshua ,he doesnt relie on the jab and showed that when he abandoned it against Klitchko repeadily getting all knock downs when he did that. Tyson was NEVER out jabbed in his prime .


It really would have no bearing here ,bc as stated this is going on the inside with two clashing style whop both like to end fights swiftly and in violent fashion, the differance is Joshua has the option of longer range control of opposition.

If you cant see the differance between Joshua and others who did compete with Tyson....oh well....its right in front of you.

you need one of two things to defeat Tyson thats speed and power bc if you couldnt get him off you ...you lost. Ask any opponet who fought Joshua so far and what surprised them the most was not his power but speed ...he HAS both .

Comapring a 6'6 Klitchko is pointless as well since Tyson is aggressive 5'10 guy,how does Wlad show how Joshua does against Tyson?.If Wlad goes in on Joshua fast he gets knocked out very quickly bc thats not his style against inside fighters.Wlad relied on the jab,tyson used it more to set up his barrage.

[bluepete]

"You said that Tyson hadn't fought any good fighters over 6foot 3 so I named some"

now your just trying to twist an angle which i never stated....

Ruddock/Tucker/biggs and Bruno were good fighters...they WERENT Joshua.Whos to say who rocked who and who hit harder...was Tucker a big puncher bc at 230 or so pounds he doesnt seem to be and whyte has about 20 pounds on him and throwing hooks have greater impact because they use more shoulder in the punch.

i wasnt compariing Joshua speed to Tyson ...YOU stated Joshua was slower than the other guys he fought and thats FALSE.

what is true he hes the fastest 240 plus guy after Klitchko per punch...and as stated for combo punching he is faster than any SHW thus far.

Tucker did not catch Tyson off balance he caught him flush coming straight in ,you are making up things here.Tysons only weakness was actually the uppercut which is Joshuas best punch and knows how to set that up very well.He wouldnt rely on just Tyson walking into it,hes good enough to stand his ground and land it.

who cares if Tyson out jabs Joshua ,he doesnt relie on the jab and showed that when he abandoned it against Klitchko repeadily getting all knock downs when he did that. Tyson was NEVER out jabbed in his prime .


It really would have no bearing here ,bc as stated this is going on the inside with two clashing style whop both like to end fights swiftly and in violent fashion, the differance is Joshua has the option of longer range control of opposition.

If you cant see the differance between Joshua and others who did compete with Tyson....oh well....its right in front of you.

you need one of two things to defeat Tyson thats speed and power bc if you couldnt get him off you ...you lost. Ask any opponet who fought Joshua so far and what surprised them the most was not his power but speed ...he HAS both .

Comapring a 6'6 Klitchko is pointless as well since Tyson is aggressive 5'10 guy,how does Wlad show how Joshua does against Tyson?.If Wlad goes in on Joshua fast he gets knocked out very quickly bc thats not his style against inside fighters.Wlad relied on the jab,tyson used it more to set up his barrage.

You seem to be making some of my points back to me. I never said these guys over 6 3 were the sameness as Joshua, I said Tyson fought good fighters over 6 3 which you were implying he didn't. The uppercut that Tucker caught Tyson with was a left uppercut which caught Tyson square, it didn't wobble him in the sense that he was hurt or needing to hang on, it's a plain as the nose on your face. The point I was making about the jab and head movement is Tyson has a clear avenue inside on Joshua, who's head is static. You were talking about how well he evaded 40 plus Wlad and I stated to you that this in no way indicates that he could've effectively defended a much faster combination puncher who switches body to head the way Mike did. Whyte isn't a big puncher in any case, he's never shown anything to suggest he hits harder than Tucker btw. He hasn't showed anything like the calibre of a fighter that stopped a decent Buster Douglas, and he's extra weight at an inch shorter than Tucker is largely fat. If you can't see that Joshua, fast for a super heavy, is slower on he's feet than many of the 80s crop Tyson beat, doesn't move from the waist nearly as well as these fighters did and in general had less mobility and a static head then I don't know what your looking at. Even you have to admit that these superheavies don't fight at anything like the pace of the big men of the 80s.Tyson would chew Joshua up, as much as I like Anthony, he's not shown me enough to make me think otherwise so far.

[dibzvincent143]

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Who would win in a fight between Tyson and Joshua?

That's the question Joshua was asked during an event last month and his answer was brilliant.

"Mike Tyson would have battered me!!" he then just said "I would've taken that paycheck and accepted the result,".

"You know what I done in the sixth round against Klitschko when I took that dive... I'm joking, I would have taken a dive against Tyson."

"He was a beast! I give all credit and respect to Tyson."

Nice one joshuaaa!

[juggernaut666]

You seem to be making some of my points back to me. I never said these guys over 6 3 were the sameness as Joshua, I said Tyson fought good fighters over 6 3 which you were implying he didn't. The uppercut that Tucker caught Tyson with was a left uppercut which caught Tyson square, it didn't wobble him in the sense that he was hurt or needing to hang on, it's a plain as the nose on your face. The point I was making about the jab and head movement is Tyson has a clear avenue inside on Joshua, who's head is static. You were talking about how well he evaded 40 plus Wlad and I stated to you that this in no way indicates that he could've effectively defended a much faster combination puncher who switches body to head the way Mike did. Whyte isn't a big puncher in any case, he's never shown anything to suggest he hits harder than Tucker btw. He hasn't showed anything like the calibre of a fighter that stopped a decent Buster Douglas, and he's extra weight at an inch shorter than Tucker is largely fat. If you can't see that Joshua, fast for a super heavy, is slower on he's feet than many of the 80s crop Tyson beat, doesn't move from the waist nearly as well as these fighters did and in general had less mobility and a static head then I don't know what your looking at. Even you have to admit that these superheavies don't fight at anything like the pace of the big men of the 80s.Tyson would chew Joshua up, as much as I like Anthony, he's not shown me enough to make me think otherwise so far.

"You seem to be making some of my points back to me. I never said these guys over 6 3 were the sameness as Joshua, I said Tyson fought good fighters over 6 3 which you were implying he didn't. "

You certainly did and you did so by saying Joshua wasnt as fast as they were and has poor defense too easily hit (both are the exact opposite ) You can say i implied but thats false as i didnt say anything about Tysons competition so thats also false ,i said he didnt fight any power puncher over 6'3 in his prime (thats TRUE ) .

"Whyte isn't a big puncher in any case, he's never shown anything to suggest he hits harder than Tucker btw. He hasn't showed anything like the calibre of a fighter that stopped a decent Buster Douglas, and he's extra weight at an inch shorter than Tucker is largely fat. "

Who has Tucker knocked out when he weighedunder 230 pounds ? Weight helps with hitting harder lets stop pretending Whyte is some out of shape guy .Buster Douglas and Whyte has no meaning here either ,if it does i could simply use it as evidence why Joshua would be dangerous here . Douglas also wasnt good at grindind you down ,Whyte is and would have more relevance in the actual match were discussing .



"If you can't see that Joshua, fast for a super heavy, is slower on he's feet than many of the 80s crop Tyson beat, doesn't move from the waist nearly as well as these fighters did and in general had less mobility and a static head then I don't know what your looking at. "

NO SHW had aggressive style like Joshua so what exactly are you looking at when you say he has static movements when clearly hes quite explosive and very good at getting out of someones striking range . There is a differance between staying out of range by AVOIDING / back pedalling and staying close and not getting hit whichis actual defence .

And as ive pointed out already you cannot defeat prime Tyson back pedalling to avoid him certainly without power which is why he went undefeated under Rooney . So your logic that Joshua cant compete with Tyson is proven false right there bc hes the exact opposite as those 80's guys .


"Even you have to admit that these superheavies don't fight at anything like the pace of the big men of the 80s.Tyson would chew Joshua up, as much as I like Anthony, he's not shown me enough to make me think otherwise so far. "

The modern guys weigh alot more average around 240 ( please dont tell me there fat ) Its not about fighting at a pace for HW its about landing the significant shots and beinfg able to absorb them too . The heavier guy USUALLY wins in boxing ,ill leave it at that as im not going to write an essay when you give a few examples and tell me im wrong and even use Tyson the best HW under 220 himself to disprove that .

At the end of the day i know Joshua brings alot more to the table that the others couldn't both in physical and skills. Ive already summed this up on the other thread of Tyson vs CURRENT Joshua ,you guys are simply ignoring the actual match and using eras and other fighters as evidence with no substance behind it ,thats not how you break down fights you use the REAL skills of each . !


Only 4 guys managed to last with THE actual prime Tyson,one in which he carried (Tillis ) another nearly out on his feet in a ten rnder (Green ) . IF Tyson wanted the knock out he usually got it ,of course you can use bone crusher the guy who should have been DQ'd .

We all know none of these fights have actual meaning here bc we are using Joshua who is going to force a K.O on himself or vice versa bc STYLE of this fight says so and wont see past rnd 5 in all likely hood had it taken place . If it goes past 6 Joshua in all likely hood stops Tyson before the 9th .

At the end of the day you dont base entire careers you are comparing and matching up two fighters at their BEST ,one fight .

Tyson 5th rnd K.O in a very close call ending punches being thrown every rnd .

[Da Wizard]

Respect to Josh he is humble.

[iamboxing]

real respect from AJ to Tyson and very smart not to antognise Tyson fans unlike Mayweather who dissed Ali

[bluepete]

"You seem to be making some of my points back to me. I never said these guys over 6 3 were the sameness as Joshua, I said Tyson fought good fighters over 6 3 which you were implying he didn't. "

You certainly did and you did so by saying Joshua wasnt as fast as they were and has poor defense too easily hit (both are the exact opposite ) You can say i implied but thats false as i didnt say anything about Tysons competition so thats also false ,i said he didnt fight any power puncher over 6'3 in his prime (thats TRUE ) .

"Whyte isn't a big puncher in any case, he's never shown anything to suggest he hits harder than Tucker btw. He hasn't showed anything like the calibre of a fighter that stopped a decent Buster Douglas, and he's extra weight at an inch shorter than Tucker is largely fat. "

Who has Tucker knocked out when he weighedunder 230 pounds ? Weight helps with hitting harder lets stop pretending Whyte is some out of shape guy .Buster Douglas and Whyte has no meaning here either ,if it does i could simply use it as evidence why Joshua would be dangerous here . Douglas also wasnt good at grindind you down ,Whyte is and would have more relevance in the actual match were discussing .



"If you can't see that Joshua, fast for a super heavy, is slower on he's feet than many of the 80s crop Tyson beat, doesn't move from the waist nearly as well as these fighters did and in general had less mobility and a static head then I don't know what your looking at. "

NO SHW had aggressive style like Joshua so what exactly are you looking at when you say he has static movements when clearly hes quite explosive and very good at getting out of someones striking range . There is a differance between staying out of range by AVOIDING / back pedalling and staying close and not getting hit whichis actual defence .

And as ive pointed out already you cannot defeat prime Tyson back pedalling to avoid him certainly without power which is why he went undefeated under Rooney . So your logic that Joshua cant compete with Tyson is proven false right there bc hes the exact opposite as those 80's guys .


"Even you have to admit that these superheavies don't fight at anything like the pace of the big men of the 80s.Tyson would chew Joshua up, as much as I like Anthony, he's not shown me enough to make me think otherwise so far. "

The modern guys weigh alot more average around 240 ( please dont tell me there fat ) Its not about fighting at a pace for HW its about landing the significant shots and beinfg able to absorb them too . The heavier guy USUALLY wins in boxing ,ill leave it at that as im not going to write an essay when you give a few examples and tell me im wrong and even use Tyson the best HW under 220 himself to disprove that .

At the end of the day i know Joshua brings alot more to the table that the others couldn't both in physical and skills. Ive already summed this up on the other thread of Tyson vs CURRENT Joshua ,you guys are simply ignoring the actual match and using eras and other fighters as evidence with no substance behind it ,thats not how you break down fights you use the REAL skills of each . !


Only 4 guys managed to last with THE actual prime Tyson,one in which he carried (Tillis ) another nearly out on his feet in a ten rnder (Green ) . IF Tyson wanted the knock out he usually got it ,of course you can use bone crusher the guy who should have been DQ'd .

We all know none of these fights have actual meaning here bc we are using Joshua who is going to force a K.O on himself or vice versa bc STYLE of this fight says so and wont see past rnd 5 in all likely hood had it taken place . If it goes past 6 Joshua in all likely hood stops Tyson before the 9th .

At the end of the day you dont base entire careers you are comparing and matching up two fighters at their BEST ,one fight .

Tyson 5th rnd K.O in a very close call ending punches being thrown every rnd .

When you wrote that Tyson hadn't fought a good heavyweight over 6 foot 3 like Joshua surely you can understand why I would assume you were referring the heights of he's opponents, not the fact that they didn't have the same exact qualities as Joshua, because if that's what you meant you couldve just left the height out of it and said Tyson never fought a heavyweight like Joshua period. Some guys prefer the superheavy of today and think it makes them a better fighter than the guys around in the 80s.I disagree. As a person who has seen Whyte up close at Keddles gym I can definitely say he carries alot of fat, far more than the 222lb Tucker did when he fought Tyson. I would certainly stick by what I said about Whyte not hitting harder than Tucker, because Whyte himself hasn't knocked out anyone decent at British level. Tucker did in fact stop a world class heavy, not proof he hits harder than Whyte, but nothing on Whytes record suggests he's a good puncher. It's not about weight. Haye, rarely above 220 in he's prime hits harder than Whyte, Wilder who weighs in the 220lbs also can claim the same. Weight doesn't mean anything. It's not MMA. It's the reason so many big guys look like they need oxygen in good back and forth fights. Such as Whyte Chisora. Have a look at the good heavy fights of the 80s and 90s.Theu had much better stamina and output. Stylistically, Joshua doesn't match well with Mike. He's qualities are height, reach, power and decent speed for he's size. He won't be able to use height or reach against Tyson. Hes power isnt likely to keep him out of trouble because Mike was never vulnerable to power in he's prime. He was extremely hard to hit and did indeed fight big men who were hard hitters. Smith, Bruno, Williams and Ruddock were all very good punchers, none could hold him off. Joshua doesn't move he's own head well enough to defend Mike's combinations. Catching shots on the gloves doesn't work with Mike. How in fact does Joshua outlast Mike ala Holyfield when he's nowhere near being as durable or able to fight at the same kind of pace? Your the one who says people don't judge fights on style. I am judging it on style. I go with the man who's hard to hit, faster of hand and foot, experienced at hitting men of a similar frame to he's opponent, has a better chin, ability to fight at a higher pace, and didn't go life and death when he fought a 40 year old when he was in he's prime. Joshua has had one world class win in Klitschko. He was down and nearly stopped by a 40 year old while in he's prime. He might have alot more to show, he hasn't yet.

[bluepete]

joshua has 25 pounds on those guys.Tysons k.o percentage went down drastically with guys over 230 lets not pretend fighting joshua wouldnt create a great fight.

Are you saying the weight helps you absorb shots better or hit harder? When Bruno fought a faded Mike he weighed in at 247lbs.As big as Joshua weight wise and very little fat. The weight didn't help him absorb the shots any better. He didn't hit any harder and was out of there two rounds quicker than the first time. What is it you think the weight achieves?