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  • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    Ortiz,Maidana,Berto technically contributed to Mayweather gates, nobody counts them as drawing the gates. You know why. B sides, just like your man Golovkin is.
    You parents were cousins.

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    • Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
      You parents were cousins.
      Oh wow you hurt my feelings what an insult, how shall I cope.

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      • Lol @ Kovalev stans blaming Ward. Didn't Kovalev sell barely a thousand tickets against Mohammedi just a few years ago?

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        • This is what happens when two guys fight in a market where they have no following. The fight should've been in NYC at Barclay's.

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          • well 6,366 people saw Kov get his azz whooped

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            • Originally posted by _Maxi View Post
              You parents were cousins.
              u need a woman or we can start a go fund me so u can get a harlot!!!

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              • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                What a ****** **** you are. 2 of the best fighters in the world fought and it wasn't worthy of PPV? No fight is worthy of PPV then you ****ing moron.
                Honestly it wasn't. There are too many examples of past well known champions (Jones, Hopkins, Toney,etc.) going to PPV for fights and selling terribly.

                Examples:
                Calzaghe v. Jones sold 225k lol
                Klitschko v. Williams did 120k
                Jones Harding 125k

                There are probably two dozen examples of PPV fights that were just bad ideas. If you can't cross that 300k mark things get tight.

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                • Originally posted by RightJabLikeZab View Post
                  Lol @ Kovalev stans blaming Ward. Didn't Kovalev sell barely a thousand tickets against Mohammedi just a few years ago?
                  I didn't read the thread and I don't even think I've ever encountered a Kovalev Stan but the blame for this failure goes to the lead promoter, Roc Nation, who are probably the most incompetent entity in boxing. I don't like Ward, but the way he and James Prince hav taken advantage of Roc Nation has been absolutely masterful.

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                  • Originally posted by The Time View Post
                    Not talking about Cotto-Canelo, even with Cotto's $16, 17 million per fight for 3 fights deal, that didn't effect the Cotto-Canelo fight revenue. But the Geale fight and then the buyout of the contract where Cotto received free money didn't benefit Roc Nation, no profit made there in those situations.


                    Andre Ward is going to need another name to make good money compared to a guy like Canelo.

                    Besides Heavyweight and Stevenson, the only other guy Ward can make good money with is Tony Bellew.

                    These fights with Kovalev sounds like RNS just broke even with the purses for all of the fighters and all of the payouts on their cards. Ward made good guaranteed money. How much of a profit did RNS make?

                    The amount of tickets sold a little over 6,000 which was half of the capacity at Mandalay Bay and the 130,000 PPV buys is not a good sign for Ward being a draw in the sport of boxing, unless he fights name guys or at Heavyweight, I don't see Ward being a major draw in boxing.
                    No idea what the business on the Geale fight was, but RocNation basically got the full MGM Resorts site fee, plus most of the US PPV (which generated at least $50m). Beyond that, "buyout" of the deal is unlikely to be as simple as that (especially with the concert piece of the deal).

                    Andre Ward will only be returning to Las Vegas for the likely Adonis Stevenson fight or the possible Tony Bellew fight, and that's fine.

                    Any other fight that can be made for Ward (Cleverly-Jack winner, likely Beterbiev mandatory, Joe Smith Jr, etc) will be held at Oracle or Barclays, at regular big-event prices ($2m-$4m gates are possible), with a PPV baseline of $4m in net revenue (Ward's TV situation is unclear, but a move to Showtime/CBS likely puts enough money onto the table to not force PPV)

                    Andre's likely never going to be a Floyd-type draw, but finishing up as a Roy-level draw isn't bad, imo

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                    • Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                      You think I changed my username because of anything other than because I wanted to? You do know changing a username does nothing to hide who you were? All the old posts are still linked and you can see the username changes on peoples profiles. You probably didn't because you're so ****ing ******.

                      I own you Golovtards and the Pac turds on the regular with cold hard facts. Having little digs at me like you did in this thread shows me I hurt your little feelings. I love it.
                      I'm sure you do love it. In my experience, your type are always closet masochists. That's your main motivation for doing what you do.

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