Why did Floyd need an IV to rehydrate if he barely cuts any weight?

[HWChampion]

becuz we waz kangzz n shiet

[The Big Dunn]

becuz we waz kangzz n shiet

Freedom, stop posting like you said you would.

[SplitSecond]

I make a comment about one thread being redundant and you make it about all redundant threads lol

If it was up to me there wouldn't be tons of redundant anti-Pac threads or pro-Floyd threads either. In fact I'd have no issue with a whole separate forum dedicated to Floyd and Pac so that the alts that can't stop b1tching about the two of those guys can stay there while the rest of us focus on what else is going on in this sport other than two old guys on their way out.

Plus, I'm a pac-tard.

[BrometheusBob.]

Go through my posts in the May-Pac master thread

Tell me what you see.

I can save you some time doe - I voted for Pac by KO. I made dozens of posts saying the fight was closer than Floyd fans made it out to be. And plenty of other posts you'd associate with a pro-Pac poster. I had a rep of being a hardcore Pac poster for a long ass while. Now I make a complaint about people's die hard anti-Floyd fanatacism and my reputation flip flops even though I have remained the same

[hugh grant]

Dodgy as heck floyd

[ruedboy]

Please be civilized in this thread. I am just asking this question, floyd is one of my favorite fighters of all time and i wouldnt want him to be found out as a PED user.

I just have a question, why did floyd need 750 Ml of saline if he made the weight easily? he was 146 at the weigh in proving he cut an extra pound below the weight, and 149 on fight night. Why did he even need an IV?

Wouldnt he put on a good amount of weight if he was so drained that he need an IV? or am i missing something?

It's a good question but it will never be answered because the NSAC has no interest in answering it. They're the authority here and because Mayweather is a huge money maker for the state, why would they do anything to harm that relationship?
The bottom line is Mayweather was granted a retroactive medical exemption for an illegal IV that was administered 24 hours before the biggest fight of his career and we don't know the reason.

[Dosumpthin]

It's a good question but it will never be answered because the NSAC has no interest in answering it. They're the authority here and because Mayweather is a huge money maker for the state, why would they do anything to harm that relationship?
The bottom line is Mayweather was granted a retroactive medical exemption for an illegal IV that was administered 24 hours before the biggest fight of his career and we don't know the reason.

It's against the law, HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996), for USADA to release confidential medical records to the public.

[Dosumpthin]

Only thing I can think is a flush, to rid his body of any banned substances, like Lance Armstrong used.

If Floyd is using something im better on Ritalin or Adderall smart drugs that amplify reaction time, NFL players use it to make them react quickly and think faster, Floyd relies on his reaction time more than anything else since he is a defensive pot shotter.

The thing that bugs me out is he went behind USADA back, USADA catches him and doesn't even report him to NSAC violating their own rules, instead they catch him red handed and give him a pass and write up a retroactive TUE for him

Some people say USADA was the snitch who was telling Floyd about Pacs injuries, Floyd and leonard said Pacman is getting hurt in camp before the fight happened.

USADA also failed to send in a paper to NSAC in advance to file for Pacs pain killer shots, weird stuff all around just unprofessional.

Yeah. That used to bug me at first when all the media outlets reported it. But the source later recanted:

There’s one significant correction in it that I accept. Prior to USADA’s September 17 statement, it was widely believed that its doping control officer went to Mayweather’s Las Vegas home to conduct an unannounced drug test and found evidence of an IV being administered to Mayweather. USADA maintains – and I will accept - that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO.

- THOMAS HAUSER



Thomas Hauser is the journalist that started the rumor floyd was "caught red handed."


Hauser later admitted he made a mistake. Floyd didn't go behind USADA back but instead informed the DCO ahead of time AND provided a partial urine sample BEFORE using the IV.



Once I learned the facts, it never bothered me again.

[dibzvincent143]

Please be civilized in this thread. I am just asking this question, floyd is one of my favorite fighters of all time and i wouldnt want him to be found out as a PED user.

I just have a question, why did floyd need 750 Ml of saline if he made the weight easily? he was 146 at the weigh in proving he cut an extra pound below the weight, and 149 on fight night. Why did he even need an IV?

Wouldnt he put on a good amount of weight if he was so drained that he need an IV? or am i missing something?

From what I've understood from this mess was that the whole operation was done in his house not on any medical facility which was not allowed by NSAC and didn't had an approval(TUE) until it all came out to the other bodies(promoters etc) or after 3 weeks after the fight. And Floyd also took 750 ML particularly a large amount for someone who is not even fighting far below his natural weight. Considering 50ml per 6 hours is the regular rate applied to drained fighters.

I didn't read all the read all the articles regarding this, but it's all fishy even for me as a Floyd Fan.

As per conspiracy theories, i think team floyd had no intention to even apply for that TUE, but then they got caught in their house doing the deed. And everyone thought they'd still be able to contain it from making public but they were all wrong, so usada instructed them immediately to apply for TUE so they can make it all look legal. Which it now is, since it has TUE. The fact remains that it is still shady as fk because the commissioner was first upset upon knowing all these, and definitely mentioned it is a violation if it's done outside a medical facility, and given the amounts taken, and understanding that floyd ain't even drain for he fought years at 147.
Then a day later the commissioner changed all his tune like nothing lol

As also a floyd fan. I need more information regarding this. And anyone at all pls enlighten me if I'm wrong.
I have no problem with him winning the fight, this one is a diff matter.

[Dosumpthin]

From what I've understood from this mess was that the whole operation was done in his house not on any medical facility which was not allowed by NSAC and didn't had an approval(TUE)

After intial reports, it has been revealed that IVs are not banned according to NSAC RULES - therfore a the****utic exemption (TUE) for NSAC was not necessary.

A TUE was needed to satisfy WADA, which USADA is bound to as a signatory. NSAC can't issue a TUE for WADA. Nor can USADA issue one for NSAC.

Also the IV was admisiterd by a paramedic. IVS for rehydration done at a hospital don't require a TUE.

until it all came out to the other bodies(promoters etc) or after 3 weeks after the fight.

TUE application is a legnthy process. Also there is no timeline within WADA rules for a retroactive TUE

And Floyd also took 750 ML particularly a large amount for someone who is not even fighting far below his natural weight. Considering 50ml per 6 hours is the regular rate applied to drained fighters.

750ml is a normal amount to rehydrate an adult athlete the size of Floyd.

The 50ml per 6 hours is a rule that governs when a TUE must be applied for - it's not a medical guideline for rehydration. In fact you couldn't rehydrate a new born baby at that rate.

I didn't read all the read all the articles regarding this, but it's all fishy even for me as a Floyd Fan.

Understood. The facts were being intentionally misrepresented and it does take additional time to read the rules and gain an understanding.

As per conspiracy theories, i think team floyd had no intention to even apply for that TUE, but then they got caught in their house doing the deed. And everyone thought they'd still be able to contain it from making public but they were all wrong, so usada instructed them immediately to apply for TUE so they can make it all look legal.

This was a rumor started by Thomas Hauser - that floyd was caught red handed. However Thomas Hauser admitted he was wrong and agreed to Floyd informed the USADA Doping Control Officer BEFORE using an IV. As standard procedure Floyd gave a partial urine sample BEFORE the IV and completed the sample immediately AFTER the IV.

Which it now is, since it has TUE. The fact remains that it is still shady as fk because the commissioner was first upset upon knowing all these, and definitely mentioned it is a violation if it's done outside a medical facility, and given the amounts taken, and understanding that floyd ain't even drain for he fought years at 147.

The commisioner BOB BENNET admitted he was wrong. NSAC doesn't ban IVs. ALSO his quotes were taken out of context - there were issues with UFC fighters trying to use USADA TUES to satify NSAC requirements for banned substances.

WADA clearly rules clearly indicate it is the athletes responsibility to apply for TUES to ALL relevant ADOS involved.

AGAIN this doesn't apply to FLOYD because NSAC didn't ban IVs

Then a day later the commissioner changed all his tune like nothing lol

He was wrong. Pretty embarrassing to not be well versed in your own rules. But that is part of the problem with NSAC testing. Lack of knowledge of WADA and lack of resources.

As also a floyd fan. I need more information regarding this. And anyone at all pls enlighten me if I'm wrong.
I have no problem with him winning the fight, this one is a diff matter.

There is more. But that is a lot to take in. There are a few people who will give you more information about the FACTS surrounding the IV.