You Say Horn Won? Show Your Scorecard

[TonyGe]

That's where you wrong. Horn dictated the pace of the whole fight. Pacquiao did not control a single round of the fight except the 9th.


And let me remind you that fights are judged round per round, not holistically. Unless we're speaking specific rounds, your opinion is obsolete and again the musing of a casual emotional invested fan.


My judging was completely consistent with the judge's cards. Only difference is that I wasn't paid. Do you think that is a pure coincidence or a testament to my judging ability? Have you ever compared your score cards with judge, and if so, did you come to similar conclusions or your's was completely out of wack?

Here is my score card, please feel free to go at it and which rounds you think I got wrong, I would be more than happy to debate with you as long as you promise you won't get your emotions get in the way:

Sorry how can you have round 9 scored as a 10-9 round? It was such a clear departure from the preceding rounds that it properly should be scored 10-8 for Pacquiao.

[ironmt]

I had it 9-3 Manny, but could see 8-4. 7-5 if you're being extremely generous. Manny landed the cleaner shots and more effective shots. If "being the aggressor" is the only argument for Horn winning, then you DKSAB

We actually have members here that believe that "being the aggressor" wins the round almost all the time.

[Ca$trO]

Another blind man ape don't talk about sports that you have a hard time understanding. Floyd was never a aggressor in any of his fights ring generalship is the crap you use when you don't have a tie breaker for a round, and manny clearly punished horn all fight so kys

you must be ****ing ****** because I did't mention floyd in my comments

secondly floyd beat mannys ass if you know anything about boxing which you clearly don't..

the only blind ape around here is the one that must of fcuked your moms... he should have fcuked her in her ass so a clear ****** like you wouldn't have been born..

I'M NOT THE ONE FOR YOUR RACIST ****!!!

[Ca$trO]

We actually have members here that believe that "being the aggressor" wins the round almost all the time.

there are HBO analyst who believe the same... this fight imo comes down to Pac just not looking like pac and I think the judge scored that. right or wrong they scored it...

[KingHippo]

Sorry how can you have round 9 scored as a 10-9 round? It was such a clear departure from the preceding rounds that it properly should be scored 10-8 for Pacquiao.

Horn started the round strong and Pacquiao didn't even score a knockdown. I've seen better rounds from other boxers that were scored a 10-9. And I don't know what previous rounds have to do with any of this.

P.S. you shouldn't base your judging opinion on Teddy Atlas. It's clear the man is off his rocker.

[Ca$trO]

Horn started the round strong and Pacquiao didn't even score a knockdown. I've seen better rounds from other boxers that were scored a 10-9. And I don't know what previous rounds have to do with any of this.

P.S. you shouldn't base your judging opinion on Teddy Atlas. It's clear the man is off his rocker.

I see your logic and obviously its not wrong, I just think you can't score a fight based off pervious fights. The fact is round 9 was a clear round where horn was in more trouble than he was in for the entire fight... so much so the ref warned him he would stop it. if the other rounds where 10-9 why wouldn't this one be considered a 10-8 as it was so much different from what we saw in the whole fight?

just another angle scoring is subjective and thats the beauty and the fallacy of the sport. 6 eyes can see different things or can be bought....

[KingHippo]

I see your logic and obviously its not wrong, I just think you can't score a fight based off pervious fights. The fact is round 9 was a clear round where horn was in more trouble than he was in for the entire fight... so much so the ref warned him he would stop it. if the other rounds where 10-9 why wouldn't this one be considered a 10-8 as it was so much different from what we saw in the whole fight?

just another angle scoring is subjective and thats the beauty and the fallacy of the sport. 6 eyes can see different things or can be bought....

When it comes to giving 10-8 rounds, it does. Previous rounds are irrelevant in my opinion. The round would have to be stopped within an inch of Horn's death for me to give make this a 10-8 round. 10-8 rounds without knockdowns don't come around to often, this was a great round for Pacquiao, but nothing I haven't seen before in other 10-9 rounds.

[HAMMER77777]

you can't even keep up with punches stop it

Sure, idiot. Thats why I'm "undisputed champion" and you're "banned". Or is my computer lying to me? Right.

[hitman smax]

That's where you wrong. Horn dictated the pace of the whole fight. Pacquiao did not control a single round of the fight except the 9th.


And let me remind you that fights are judged round per round, not holistically. Unless we're speaking specific rounds, your opinion is obsolete and again the musing of a casual emotional invested fan.


My judging was completely consistent with the judge's cards. Only difference is that I wasn't paid. Do you think that is a pure coincidence or a testament to my judging ability? Have you ever compared your score cards with judge, and if so, did you come to similar conclusions or your's was completely out of wack?

Here is my score card, please feel free to go at it and which rounds you think I got wrong, I would be more than happy to debate with you as long as you promise you won't get your emotions get in the way:

I was simply explaining the standard by which fights are supposed to be score by judges, and my take on why Pac won this fight in lopsided fashion based on that standard.

For the record, I gave Horn rounds 1, 6, and 10.

I'll also add this, in any fight that wasn't fixed otherwise, Pacquiao receives a score of no less than 116 on every judges scorecard here based on how this fight played out.

And, the only way in which Horn dictated the action was his rough and dirty tactics, which are a violation of rules and should not be rewarded by judges.

Even with that, Horn just kept walking into punches with his aggression, often looking sloppy in the process. And it nearly cost him the fight in round 9.

[hitman smax]

Hippo,

By the way, I wouldn't brag about being in line with these corrupted judges. This was clearly a subjective group.