Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Was Overconfident, His Corner Said ****** Things!

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  • HURTFEELINGS
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    #41
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    OH, PUNCH STATS MATTER NOW

    Doesnt manny have his own promotional/boxing company? He can leave bob, just as Oscar, Floyd, Cotto have done and get his retirement fund by fighting Khan or Broner. Without Bob taking his cut, he makes more $$$.

    His "world tour" stopped after 1 fight

    Last week, pac was elite and Kov was doing the stanky leg
    How things have changed...

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    • Shadoww702
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Yeah. Haymon is paying guys more because he gets a bigger cut of their take since he is the manager. To some that is somehow undermining the fabric of the sport. Funny thing is when they saw the PAC/ horn decision, a number of the same posters felt bob had something to do with it.

      ODH and Floyd, guys that broke the old model, are multi millionaires with promotional companies. ask kov and Manny how are they doing.
      Kovalov and Manny should be asking Duva and Arum how come were so FKN broke. And Pac should be asking WTF am I fighting in Australia??? No one even knows who this Joe Horn guy is??? This would be like Canelo fighting some unknown in their Country.

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      • Nightfall
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        #43
        horn was there to be hit. pacquiao needs to rematch this guy and take his time and pic this guy off little by little. then there will be no way that horn could win

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        • Shadoww702
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dosumpthin
          Weight divisions were never a problem Pacquiao until stringent drug testing came along.

          Its what made Pacquiao a legend remember? 8 divisions?

          Face it. Slow start to his career losing in smaller divisions. Uses PEDS becomes a new unstoppable fighter for 3-4 years while moving up. Su****ions are raised then he ducks testing.
          Eventually stopped using. Sharp decline in physical ability.

          Typical PED career of any athelete that stops using.
          I hate to say it but we need to start looking at Pac like we do Bonds, Clemens, and A-Rod...

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          • nycsmooth
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            #45
            That is one of the problems with ESPN broadcast for boxing the corners are rarely mic'd up and then of course Atlas can never keep his mouth shut...

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              #46
              Originally posted by bronx7
              Freddy always pumps manny up tries to get him going says he will get a ko manny never disrespects anyone
              Maybe not verbally but I think the ring evidence supports Pacquaio not having taken Horn seriously and not having prepared properly for him.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Shadoww702
                "What happens when you go in overconfident and you know you have the morons in his corner"

                He just called Roach a MORON lol...
                He was referring to Justin Fortune.

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                • Combat Talk Radio
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by T.M.T
                  horn was there to be hit.
                  Negative. Jeff Horn's head movement was off the rails. Manny TRIED to hit him and couldn't. Swinging at air quite a few times.

                  And I'm assuming you totally ignored the lateral movement which was there all but round 9 from Horn. Even when Manny did connect, it was grazing or didn't bother him, because he was moving in the opposite direction.

                  Go back and watch it again - there's a version without Teddy Atlas screaming. Then you'll understand how he biased America against Horn who actually fought a decent fight against a tough opponent.

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                  • p4ptbe
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702
                    So has Floyd and Oscar. BOB Arum always has extensions on top of extensions so it's almost impossible for you to ever full fill your contract. And when you get close he'll put you on ICE if you don't sign more extensions so you can never full fill them.
                    thats what came out in the court cases against haymon! the judge said haymon is the only one that isnt tying up his fighters in long term contracts... even GB does this mikey garcia said they told him if he wants linares he needs to sign a 4 fight deal which is ridiculous

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                    • p4ptbe
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      Yup!!! Good old senile Duva did that to Kovalov.. And Horn just made $500,000 to Manny's $10,000,000...
                      steve kim or dan rafael dont write stories about these scammers for some reason....

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