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  • Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Was Overconfident, His Corner Said ****** Things!

    Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum felt Manny Pacquiao was overconfident when he entered the ring last Saturday night against Jeff Horn at the Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane, Australia. Horn, a 2012 Australian Olympian, pulled off a shocking upset with a twelve round unanimous decision over Pacquiao to capture the WBO welterweight championship - before a crowd of over 50,000 fans at the venue.
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  • #2
    Yep Pacquiao looked like he was celebrating before the fight. He thought it was going to be easy as did almost everyone.

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    • #3
      You know what's ******? A promoter that lets his legendary boxer run himself into the ground for an entire decade fighting opponents 15 pounds heavier than him almost every single fight. Even overconfident, if Horn had been the same size as Pacquiao, he would have been KO'd in the 9th round or probably earlier. He never would have been able to take the punches he took. Instead, he finished the fight and had a huge swollen head after the fight, because Pacquiao hit him so hard, but because he had a 15 pound weight advantage in the ring, his mass was able to absorb those shots without getting KO'd.

      If Arum is smart, he will not waste another second of Pacquiao's career in the wrong division. They did it for the money but they failed to realize that Pacquiao looks much less spectacular in that division against guys he can't hurt nearly as easily, and when your fighter doesn't look spectacular, he is not going to sell the PPVs he could be selling no matter what division he is in. You are better off with a spectacular boxer at 135 whose name will make WHICHEVER division he fights in into the money division than have an uninspired boxer at 147 just for the sake of fighting in "the money division." Arum has still failed to realize that apparently, and his star boxer's career has paid the price for it for years.

      The damage is already done for the last decade. What should have been a decade as spectacular as the first decade of Pacquiao's career was instead somewhat wasted in the wrong division. It could have been truly spectacular if they kept him at 135 where he belongs. But like I said, the past cannot be changed. However, despite splitting training time with senatorial duties and fighting a man much bigger than him, and getting headbutted all night, Pacquiao still showed he has something left.

      So long as they don't waste another second with him int he wrong division, Pacquiao's career could have a resurgence. But it has to happen at 135. MOVE PACQUIAO DOWN TO 135 ALREADY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD and make Pacquiao-Linares for the fall, and I think everyone will be shocked by the spectacular performance you will see him put in. Meanwhile let Lomachenko collect the other 135 belts on ESPN, building his name, and Top Rank can have an in-house superfight by the end of next year at 135, Lomachenko vs Pacquiao, possibly even for ALL FOUR BELTS at once assuming Pacquiao can also beat Easter before then and Lomachenko can beat Mikey Garcia. Who wouldn't want to see that? But it's only possible if they stop ruining Pacquiao's career in the wrong division and do what they should have done ages ago and move him down to 135 where his power can actually be effective again against guys his own weight.

      It's not Christianity that has been preventing Pacquiao from getting knockouts this whole time. It's boxing in the wrong damn weight division! Move him down to 135 and I guarantee he starts getting KO's again, even at age 38.
      Last edited by Boxing Logic; 07-04-2017, 07:56 AM.

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      • #4
        Freddy always pumps manny up tries to get him going says he will get a ko manny never disrespects anyone

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        • #5
          All that means nothing the score is the score manny won look at the stats and bob why aren't you mad manny got robbed and the ref you aren't saying anything ?

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          • #6
            I'll say it again. Manny should've left this guy when his contract was up last time. He can still grab some solid fights that he can win. Khan and Broner are just a few he has a good chance of winning and to make good money. He can just go on a fight by fight basis and grab some good exit money without coughing over 30% to TR.

            I can't believe that company is allowed to give those kickbacks to ****ty "managers" like Koncz. For those interested just check out the judgement in the Golden Boy v. Haymon case. It details the practices of TR (and likely Golden Boy).

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            • #7
              Pacquaio has been like Rocky from Rocky III for a while now. His hunger has gone and he's happy being Mr Popular.

              To quote Mickey

              Well, Rock, let's put it this way. Now, three years ago you was supernatural. You was hard and you was nasty and you had this cast-iron jaw but then the worst thing happened to you, that could happen to any fighter. You got civilized.

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              • #8
                While I firmly believe that Pacquiao was the winner, yes, I do agree, the **** his team was saying was foul as f**k.

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                • #9
                  Never seen a promoter bash his biggest cash cow like this in public on so many occasions..... This greedy snake has no shame... Manny has made this guys family and future generations 100s of millions of dollars and this is the thanks he gets..... Wow

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by butch.mcrae View Post
                    i'll say it again. Manny should've left this guy when his contract was up last time. He can still grab some solid fights that he can win. Khan and broner are just a few he has a good chance of winning and to make good money. He can just go on a fight by fight basis and grab some good exit money without coughing over 30% to tr.

                    I can't believe that company is allowed to give those kickbacks to ****ty "managers" like koncz. For those interested just check out the judgement in the golden boy v. Haymon case. It details the practices of tr (and likely golden boy).
                    exactly! That court case exposed gb and tr slave contracts! The judge said haymon is the only one here that isnt robbing his fighters! But no one ever talks about that!

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