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Anyone else disgusted with the fact that a fighter of this low quality is being sold to us? So he showed heart and durability which was mostly attributed to his size, that's not solid material there. The fight left a bigger stain than I initially thought.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostWell yea I'm in agreement with you on the 9-3 Horn scorecard being effed up, although again I think maybe "criminal negligence" is overstating things a lil much.
The problem with scoring fights is about & has always been about the flaws & subjectivity allowed in scoring fights more than anything else. Saying its up to the judges & their interpretation of the requirements to win rounds with no or at best few checks & balances is what needs to be corrected or we will talk about this every few weeks or months from now again & again til corrections to a flawed system are made.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostMuch respect! I got it. My fear is that if you (and I can tell you're no novice) can potentially see a "close fight," then I can have nothing but fear for the sport! We've had 2 wack endings to Ward vs. Kovalev. There was a crazy scorecard in Easter Jr. vs. Shafikov, and now Pacquaio vs. Horn, in a huge event for Championship Boxing on ESPN, and that's what we get? This, to me, is the biggest challenge for boxing, and not Mayweather vs. McGegor! The integrity OF THE ENTIRE SPORT is becoming more like the WWE! How long will fans stay interested if all the decisions, in all the fights (or even just half the fights) are controversial?
And I mean its hard to argue with them. We got 4 "world" champions to start with. 4 different top tens lol. None of which make sense. We got a sport where the power is split up to all sorts of different lil warlord-like groups (commissions, abc groups, promoters, networks & managers). You can't have the sport being pulled in so many directions & streamline the sport into its best possible form. Boxing needs less chiefs & more indians. And the chiefs need to be looking out for boxing, not their fighter, their promotion, their network or their abc group. Boxing needs to come first. Thats how other sports tend to operate, boxing gots some old school gangster-ism going on still.
Anyone who thinks Conor vs Floyd will hurt boxing isn't paying attention to the real problems of the sport which go far deeper then any one fight ever could.
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Atlas told him to his face he lost the fight and he didn't say nothing until after the fight when he was in his safe place.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostThats why I believe a lot of people have drifted away from boxing. When I talk to casual people or mainstream sports people about boxing they come from a mindset of seeing boxing as highly corrupt & not unlike WWE pro wrestling both of which turn them off on the sport most of the time.
And I mean its hard to argue with them. We got 4 "world" champions to start with. 4 different top tens lol. None of which make sense. We got a sport where the power is split up to all sorts of different lil warlord-like groups (commissions, abc groups, promoters, networks & managers). You can't have the sport being pulled in so many directions & streamline the sport into its best possible form. Boxing needs less chiefs & more indians. And the chiefs need to be looking out for boxing, not their fighter, their promotion, their network or their abc group. Boxing needs to come first. Thats how other sports tend to operate, boxing gots some old school gangster-ism going on still.
Anyone who thinks Conor vs Floyd will hurt boxing isn't paying attention to the real problems of the sport which go far deeper then any one fight ever could.
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Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic View PostLike Floyd vs McGregor?
Most boxers and their teams are wannabe businessmen in this age of boxing.
Everyone in boxing is thinking about money over the sport of boxing. And they've been thinking that way. The fighters & their teams are actually late to the money party for the most part outside of the biggest names in the sport.
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