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  • #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    Manny wants a fight in the Philippines. Why isn't he getting what he wants?

    Hasn't he done enough to earn that?
    Because manny is an employee Bob is the boss. He does what Bob says. Got it? That's just how it is when you have a boss. Floyd tried to warn him. Now his legacy is being tarnished.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
      Not to get too far into conspiracy theory land...but I wonder if Arum has something on Pacquiao? Like maybe he blackmails him and holds something over his head to make him play ball.

      Manny looked so listless yesterday in the interviews. It was as if his heart wasn't into it but something was forcing him to be there.
      GOOD QUESTION! Sorry but he is just way too SUBMISSIVE to Bob Arum it is WEIRD!

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      • #43
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        Not to get too far into conspiracy theory land...but I wonder if Arum has something on Pacquiao? Like maybe he blackmails him and holds something over his head to make him play ball.

        Manny looked so listless yesterday in the interviews. It was as if his heart wasn't into it but something was forcing him to be there.

        Arum/Trampler know exactly why/how Pac threw 1200+ punches at Clottey..... whilst looking fresh as a daisy..... and then headlined a singing concert later that same night

        THAT, is why the negotiations died over testing

        THAT, is why Arum faked that negotiation in 2010, creating the "cold war"

        THAT, is why the Mayweather fight could not happen until after the Manny-cow had been milked dry, so Pac could agree to testing

        THAT, is why that HUGE pile of ridiculous excuses they used to avoid the testing..... suddenly disappeared..... with not one of those ridiculous excuses being mentioned, not even once

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        • #44
          the reason why I don't feel sorry for Pac is.....

          I know what I saw in the Clottey fight

          Manny knows whats up

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          • #45
            Anyone who thinks this was a robbery knows nothing about boxing. Horn was aggressive and using his range and movement. Many hardly landed shots for the first 8 rounds. He had round 9 no doubt but Horn came back strong. By now people should know if you keep moving you can beat Pacquiao and also his power ceased the day Mayweather's asked for drug tests. That man was on juice.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by rrayvez View Post
              Arum set this all up. Straight business move. He's been wanting to create a white boxing star for yrs. He thought he had one with Yuri foreman and Cotto ruined that. He's hoping he has 1 with Conlan and he just created Jeff horn out of nowhere with the scam he pulled yesterday.

              There's no conspiracy here, Manny got beat. He never had the power he claimed to have, he was on juice. He was also fighting stationary targets, carefully match maked by Arum which is why they didn't want Mayweather. It's unfortunate Horn is not being given the credit he deserves. He had a plan and stuck to it.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Liondw View Post
                If Pacquaio wants to continue boxing then why bother with a rematch against Horn in Australia where it will be difficult to get a decision? Why not fight Crawford, who is not at welterweight at the moment and not as powerful as Spence and Thurman? If, that is, he believes he could win against any one of them. And, if Arum allows Manny anywhere near them.
                Crawford will leave no doubt. He will stop Manny in the middle rounds after out classing him. This is the reason the fight is not being made, Manny would be irrelevant.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Bobby Shaw View Post
                  There's no conspiracy here, Manny got beat. He never had the power he claimed to have, he was on juice. He was also fighting stationary targets, carefully match maked by Arum which is why they didn't want Mayweather. It's unfortunate Horn is not being given the credit he deserves. He had a plan and stuck to it.
                  I personally am not a pac fan. I think he was on roids from his fight with David Diaz up to his fight with mosley. I find it funny that he agreed to this fight with a relative unknown and lost. With that being said, he was jerked last night. This was all an arum scam from the jump and pac being the gullible fool he is, bought into because he's not very intelligent. Horn is being credit for doing better than expected, but he did not deserve that win.

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                  • #49
                    What the f**k does Bob mean by "moral" obligation? He says that in addition to legal obligation. Are you f**king high? You have a "moral" obligation to go back there? Jeff Horn got one of the biggest boxing gifts ever -- #1, getting the actual fight itself, and #2 you're a f**king complete no name, meanwhile Pacquiao is one of the biggest names in the history of the damn sport, and Horn gets to fight the **** in his f**king backyard. That's unheard of. And now after one fight there with a questionable decision and yet you're still "morally" obligated to fight there??

                    What world am I in??

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                      It's time to just state the truth. Arum doesn't work for Pacquiao. Pacquiao works for Arum.

                      The fight will happen when Bob tells him, where Bob tells him.
                      Sadly this is the truth. Pac.. great boxer but what a dumb@ss

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