horn v pacquiao wasnt close...

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #51
    Originally posted by bigdramashow
    i dont mean to be an arse but i genuinely dont understand what you and some of the others watched. as i said back in the real world away from the warped views of this forum everyones saying it was a robbery/fix. you simply cant make a case for horn winning that and i really struggle to see how anyone could give pacquiao less than 8 rounds.
    "Everyone" is an overstatment.

    For starters, everyone on the Boxnation braodcadt had Horn winning so that's 4 people there on a Boxing channel.

    Secondly, plenty of people I've seen had it close.

    I'll admit that I'm suprised at the amount of people who feel Pacquaio was robbed. But in my eyes he wasn't even close to robbed.

    But it seems any close fight is a robbery especially when the fan favourite doesn't get the close decision.

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    • Metho_4u
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      #52
      Originally posted by Jimmy 23
      you are f#cking idiot or troll.Probably first.I have Pac winning by 1 point, it's CLOSE fight so STFU biganalshow
      Lmao....did you steal biganalshow from me? I should put a patent on that

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      • Strategic1
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        #53
        After the 5th or 6th round especially... horns punches were blocked by Pacquiao gloves and arms.

        Pac won the last 5 rounds.. maybe you can give 1 of them to Horn. That's it.

        Awful decision.

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        • danceswithfire
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          #54
          some see a competitive fight and automaticly call it close but it is not always the case...hatton vs floyd vs cotto, manny vs bradley vs provo vs molina etc were all competitive but in no way close fights if judged accordingly imo.. pac vs jmm 123,jlc vs floyd 1 vs maidana, ward vs kovalev 1 are close fights

          pac did not win easily here but definitely clearly similar to the jesse vargas fight..

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            #55
            Originally posted by ScottWeiland
            You need somebody else's opinions to support your cases because you're so utterly insecure.

            I watched the fight and had it to Horn 115-113, two judges scored it exactly the same, they're professionals and employed to score the fights if I'm gonna side with anyone like yourself I'll side with the professionals not boxing fans and publications. That said I don't need to look to anybody else, I score or myself.
            i dont need to look to anyone else, just saying a lot of people support what im saying. only place ive really seen people defend it is on this forum but thats often the case, bizarre often agenda driven opinions always appear after the fights. got the same people saying that ggg v jacobs was a robbery (ggg outlanded and knocked him down) but horn v pacquiao wasnt (pacquiao landed twice as many punches)
            Last edited by Madison Boxing; 07-02-2017, 09:11 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              "Everyone" is an overstatment.

              For starters, everyone on the Boxnation braodcadt had Horn winning so that's 4 people there on a Boxing channel.

              Secondly, plenty of people I've seen had it close.

              I'll admit that I'm suprised at the amount of people who feel Pacquaio was robbed. But in my eyes he wasn't even close to robbed.

              But it seems any close fight is a robbery especially when the fan favourite doesn't get the close decision.
              with the punch stats (182-92!!!!!) and what should be a 10-8 round in the 9th, i have no idea how anyone had it very close let alone horn winning. Thought it was pretty clear that pacquiao was landing the clearer, cleaner shots in most the rounds and that horns work was scrappy ineffective and ultimately not landing. appreciate others opinions but i just cant see it, im calling it as i see it which is a clear robbery.

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                #57
                Originally posted by danceswithfire
                some see a competitive fight and automaticly call it close but it is not always the case...hatton vs floyd vs cotto, manny vs bradley vs provo vs molina etc were all competitive but in no way close fights if judged accordingly imo.. pac vs jmm 123,jlc vs floyd 1 vs maidana, ward vs kovalev 1 are close fights

                pac did not win easily here but definitely clearly similar to the jesse vargas fight..
                yeah thats how i saw it, horn made him work and it wasnt an easy nights work but taking it on a round by round basis scoring it on clean shots landed there was a clear winner.

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                • ray moe
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                  #58
                  It was a close fight.
                  It could have gone either way.
                  Pac didnt do enough to win. He was touching his balls and doing nothing nonstop for the first 6-7 rounds. That's what happens when you waste the first 6 rounds in doing nothing.

                  Horn is not the better fighter, that's for sure, but he deserved the victory, even if he's bad as F.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    with the punch stats (182-92!!!!!) and what should be a 10-8 round in the 9th, i have no idea how anyone had it very close let alone horn winning. Thought it was pretty clear that pacquiao was landing the clearer, cleaner shots in most the rounds and that horns work was scrappy ineffective and ultimately not landing. appreciate others opinions but i just cant see it, im calling it as i see it which is a clear robbery.
                    Those punchstats are a clear example of a flawed system.

                    And Round 9 wasn't a 10-8 round.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bigdramashow
                      with the punch stats (182-92!!!!!) and what should be a 10-8 round in the 9th, i have no idea how anyone had it very close let alone horn winning. Thought it was pretty clear that pacquiao was landing the clearer, cleaner shots in most the rounds and that horns work was scrappy ineffective and ultimately not landing. appreciate others opinions but i just cant see it, im calling it as i see it which is a clear robbery.
                      Judge the fight with your eyes instead of relying on a guy pushing a button if he thinks a punch lands to do it for you.

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