Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Coach: Mayweather Knew, He Targeted The Shoulder!

[Dosumpthin]

I am Mannys greatest fan and I believe he is god. However I must admit the injury was grossly exaggerated. I'm disappointed that Manny makes excuses instead of admitng Roach gave him a bad game plan that he couldn't execute.

Even if you say Manny injured his shoulder in the 4th rd. It doesn't explain the first 3 rounds where he only landed 3 punches total.

Also it doesn't make since that his Dr ellertrache was the one who prescribed the Toradol shot was also the same Dr who told NSAC officials Manny was fit to fight WITHOUT the Toradol shot. Either was you spin it Dr elletrache is proven not to be trustworthy.


When you take all of the factual information it looks real bad for Manny.


As much as I hate to admit it because I hate anything that starts with May - Manny was schooled badly and lost.

[MrRolltide91]

Man let it go

[MrRolltide91]

Man, you are full of misinformation.

1. Pacquiao's surgeon said he basically tweeked his shoulder during training, and that it was nothing out of the ordinary.



Mayweather had issues with both of his shoulders and wound up getting surgery on his shoulder after his last fight.

2. It is NOT true that Pacquiao missed a month of sparring. I don't know where you got that from. He missed one week, which was 3 sessions. The first was because of him tweeking the shoulder, the second was because USADA came right before he was set to spar. After that, Roach said they will just begin sparring again the next week. He was set and ready to spar that second day, but didn't only because USADA visited, and there is proof.

Here he is on that day with his hands wrapped up, waiting to spar, when USADA came in.

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Also, here he is on the morning of that day. He is at a park training...WITH HIS SPARRING PARTNERS PRESENT. But I thought they were sent home? So why is he at a park throwing punches, shoulder looks fine, later in the day with his hands wrapped up? You don't wrap your hands unless you are going to punch something.



His shoulder looks pretty good there, doesn't it?


3. Pacquiao was denied the shot because he didn't need it. His own surgeon said he didn't need it. So why was the surgeon trying to give him the shot?



It was proven that the guy in the dressing room was his surgeon. And remember, above he is quoted saying Pac was BACK TO NORMAL going into the fight. So 2 NSAC doctors, and Pac's own surgeon said he didn't appear to need anything, yet his surgeon (who was somehow needed to give a simple injection) was set to give him TORADOL, which numbs your entire body. Hmmm.

4. Floyd received a TUE retroactively, which is a part of WADA's rules. He also gave a partial urine sample from before the IV. The urine test was not allowed to be diluted according to WADA's rules, and yes the specific gravity of the urine is checked both by the USADA DCO and by the independent WADA labs. The TUE committee is a group of 4 independent doctors, who approved of the TUE. Mind you, the TUE application, and the blood and urine samples, do NOT have the athlete's name on them.

5. You were saying that an athlete can do PED's when not in camp and then clear out his system before camp. Then why would Floyd have been clearing out his system the day before the fight?

6. Pacquiao weighed more than Floyd for this fight. I'm not sure who is naturally bigger, but Floyd is at least naturally taller.

7. Floyd landed plenty on Pac.

Ether......

[aboutfkntime]

USADA never sanctioned the TUE

What was the reason behind this TUE?

What was medically wrong with Floyd?

I'm dealing with the facts here. Try and stick to them.

no idea

I stopped caring when that issue was FULLY INVESTIGATED by NSAC/USADA

we needed 1 genuine reason why Pac killed a super-fight by refusing to undertake random blood tests..... instead, we got 8 ridiculous excuses

the only reason why we got 8 ridiculous excuses, is because Team Pacquiao did not have 1 genuine reason

..... which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe?

serious question

[aboutfkntime]

Marrion Jones and Tim Montgomery singed up to much more stringent testing. Guess who let them slide? USADA

Nothing to worry if you know you can beat the system.

Also two year breaks at a time can be used to used as many heavy PEDs as you like and flush them from your system.

Any fighter who is fighting every 6 months still has to take the urine tests and bloods a month before the fight

yes, that could be a reason why some fighters retire

or..... they could simply be retiring LOL

..... but, why would a fighter refuse random blood tests ?

do you really not find that more su****ious..... ?

[b Murphington]

yes, that could be a reason why some fighters retire

or..... they could simply be retiring LOL

..... but, why would a fighter refuse random blood tests ?

do you really not find that more su****ious..... ?

I think that looking back on Pac's incredible run through the weights while carrying, and even increasing, his punching power, is super su****ious.

Added to the fact that they refused random blood testing for bs reasons, it raises red flags. Pac was destroying fighters who were wayyyyy bigger than him. It's highly out of the ordinary.


But now Pac struggles to come close to stopping anyone inside the distance. Punching power is typically the last thing to go, and he's not that old. He still has power, but it's nothing like it was several years ago.

[ArturoBalboa]

Floyd has admitted and bragged about it.

Deal with the facts.

Floyd has admitted his spies caused the injury, link please.

Deal with the facts that manny was schooled in that fight and his punch output, with both hands, was pathetic. Danny Williams threw more punches with one arm when he dislocated a shoulder mid fight.
Can you say hand on heart he couldn't have done more or take more risks to try and win that fight. Leave it all in the ring or don't cry afterwards if the verdict doesn't go your way.

[Spoon23]

I am Mannys greatest fan and I believe he is god. However I must admit the injury was grossly exaggerated. I'm disappointed that Manny makes excuses instead of admitng Roach gave him a bad game plan that he couldn't execute.

Even if you say Manny injured his shoulder in the 4th rd. It doesn't explain the first 3 rounds where he only landed 3 punches total.

Also it doesn't make since that his Dr ellertrache was the one who prescribed the Toradol shot was also the same Dr who told NSAC officials Manny was fit to fight WITHOUT the Toradol shot. Either was you spin it Dr elletrache is proven not to be trustworthy.


When you take all of the factual information it looks real bad for Manny.


As much as I hate to admit it because I hate anything that starts with May - Manny was schooled badly and lost.

What looks bad is actually this proof below..

You can't make this shyit up! haha!

[Spoon23]

Floyd has admitted his spies caused the injury, link please.

Floyd said @ 2:11, I do my homework on any fighter (after Pac fight)



The only thing that Pac got schooled was the constant running and hugging by Froid Roid. No one can compete with that. Even FLoyd will give Floyd a run for his money.










Funny thing is Floyd hired USADA, that means he was their boss. So we have the employee saying, "Hey, the boss didn't do anything wrong." WTF You gotta love it!

[Spoon23]

I am a huge Pac fan, and I detest Floyd.

But Floyd win the fight convincingly because Manny was way too cautious in the early rounds.

Not true. Proof is in the pudding. It's all about connected punches and ring generalship . In rewind. It does not confirm Floyd did land those phantom punches given to him by the compubox and the judges. It was actually Pac's that did connect more and cleaner as rewind confirms it. Floyd got a fluke win. A true win will always confirm the truth of a legit win, but in this case Floyd's was a tapestry of illusion given to him by the corrupt system of VEGAS the city of sin.

And best of all even with Pac's shoulder injury, all that show stopping hugs Floyd gave that night. Pac with an injured shoulder was still able to connect more than Floyd can ever do to him. Heavier more lethal, and best of all more frequent. Even if you turn this into a Olympic style scoring were hard shots are equal to pitty patter shots, PAc still comes out out landing Floyd in whichever which way.

Easy to score who truly won this fight. Rewind clearly shows who connected more per round, and it wasn't even close. Floyd was throwing less than compubox wanted us to believe. If Floyd truly won, rewind will support it, but as we have found out. Evidence is pointing to Pac as the true winner. It wasn't even close.




And even with all the chasing Pac had to do and all the show stopping energy diffusing lame hugging Floyd had to do to stop this fight from being a fight, Pac at the end of the day did enough to outland an IV induced bigger man.

# legendary



After getting tagged Floyd can go from one side of the fence to another in 0-60 in just 2 seconds Flat! haha!

Run Floyd Run!



Story of the night after the running comes the huggin'

A guy yells at Floyd @ 1:13 keep runnin' keep runnin' you can do it Floyd! lmao



This is how to kill time in a super fight. Run, hug rinse repeat for 12 ***** rounds lol







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Lomachenko: Pac beat Floyd