Why is there a consensus that Lomachenko is above Rigondeaux on the P4P list?

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  • Brickyardigan
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    #41
    Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
    Rigo's best win since he turned pro 8 years ago: Donaire by 12 round UD.

    Loma's best wins since he turned pro 4 years ago: Russell Jr. and Walters--you remember Walters right...the guy who beat Donaire's ass into submission in round 6 with ease?
    That was a beaten and battered Donaire with no confidence after Rigo destroyed him Donaire. Walters was a hype job journeyman with a draining strategy to fight people in a lower weight class.

    Russell Jr. Didn't even fight anyone of note. Also let's keep it real. Salida beat Lomas ass. Rigo is something Lomachenko fears even if the man is 9 years older than him

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      #42
      Originally posted by Brickyardigan
      That was a beaten and battered Donaire with no confidence after Rigo destroyed him Donaire. Walters was a hype job journeyman with a draining strategy to fight people in a lower weight class.

      Russell Jr. Didn't even fight anyone of note. Also let's keep it real. Salida beat Lomas ass. Rigo is something Lomachenko fears even if the man is 9 years older than him
      Walters is no journeyman. Stop trying to discredit a talented and top rated fighter.

      Lol, he made weight right? That's all that matters. Don't be ****ing ridiculous.

      We all saw the video of Rigo answering the guy asking why he pulled out of fight with Lomachenko. Rigo - "What weight class am I?"
      122.
      Rigo - "What weight class is she?"
      126.
      "Okay then.

      Sad. You guys just ignore the truth this was nothing more than a B.S. callout. Sure Rigo fights him at 130... for maybe 10 million, lmao.

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      • satiev1
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        #43
        Rigo's best win donaire got koed by walters who lomo easily beat. Lomo's resume makes rigo's look like an amateur. OP must be on heavy medication.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Thraxox
          The fact that you put his skin color as a reason why to he is above Rigo in the p4p list just shows what you view boxing as. Not as a sport but rather a race war.

          You are not a boxing fan.

          Here is the facts to why Lomachenko is above Rigondeaux.

          1. The 2nd man to only win his world title at his 3rd pro fight.
          2. Russel Jr. Nicholas Walters. Roman Martinez, Jason Sosa in his resume into his 9th pro fight.
          3. Eye to eye skill set is unparalleled.
          4. His dominance and climbing to weight can only be compared to a Prime Floyd Mayweather and a Prime Pacquiao.
          6. He fights three times a year.

          Not only does Lomachenko has a better resume, better credentials, better career, and more active, he is also better than Rigo in the eye to eye test.
          The first one is not true. lomachenko fought 6 times in wsb, with professional rules, and the fact that he was paid for it, make him a professional fighter before his debut in the USA.
          the second one is a valid point then again Rigondeaux has nonito on his resume, a FOY boxer and a PXP fighter at the time they fought, a very high pXp rank.
          Eye to Eye the Cuban has unparalleled skill set, too
          number 4 you can compare him to floyd not manny. floyd move up in weight and never fought the best at those weights. I could say he fought castillo at 135 and loss the first fight, imho.
          and he fight three times a year because arum is building him up. Nobody wants to fight Rigondeuax and when they do, they became actors the first time they got hit.
          Last edited by garfios; 07-04-2017, 03:57 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by satiev1
            Rigo's best win donaire got koed by walters who lomo easily beat. Lomo's resume makes rigo's look like an amateur. OP must be on heavy medication.
            Rigondeaux ruined nonito and walters ko him at 126 not 122. Before Rigondeux there was not a fighter around 122 more feared than nonito.

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            • TonyGe
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop
              Oh shut the fück up. You girls complain when the defensive retaliates to the offensive then u curl your tails with glee just to bring up race card warfare. Seriously just shut the fûck up please
              I think you should take you own advice and shut the **** up.

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                #47
                Originally posted by TheCell8
                Well I can't really defend Lomachenko being top 3 P4P, but he definitely deserves to be ranked higher than Rigo.

                His resume is superior to Rigo's because he's actually fought better opponents. The Fact that GRJ looks unstoppable right now at 126 gives Lomachenko's resume a huge boost over Rigo's.

                It matters what your opponents do after you beat them. If you beat a guy that's on a winning streak and he does **** afterwards, all that means is that they weren't that good to begin with.

                Look at where Donaire is right now. He got demolished by Nicholas Walters, another guy Lomachenko beat, and he got schooled by Magdaleno. The Donaire fight is Rigo's biggest win and that took place 4 years ago. He hasn't faced anyone noteworthy in the last 4 years.
                It could be that Rigondeaux ruined donaire.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by NO/BS2468
                  I'm a Rigondeaux fan too but not in the way you are. Arum deserves some of the blame but not all of it. The inactivity is why he's not rated higher on the P4P and that's Guillermo and his management team's fault.
                  I'll say that the boxers around Rigondeaux's weight are at fault. Fighters like frampton, quiggs, st+, mares, etc... are the reason why the Cuban is not #1 or maybe he could had loss those fights. The fact of the matter is that those "fighters" ran away from the little Cuban...

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                  • Brickyardigan
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by SniXSniPe
                    Walters is no journeyman. Stop trying to discredit a talented and top rated fighter.

                    Lol, he made weight right? That's all that matters. Don't be ****ing ridiculous.

                    We all saw the video of Rigo answering the guy asking why he pulled out of fight with Lomachenko. Rigo - "What weight class am I?"
                    122.
                    Rigo - "What weight class is she?"
                    126.
                    "Okay then.

                    Sad. You guys just ignore the truth this was nothing more than a B.S. callout. Sure Rigo fights him at 130... for maybe 10 million, lmao.
                    Walters best win is an non confident Nonito Donaire

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                    • Metho_4u
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Brickyardigan
                      I never had Lomachenko above number 10 on my p4p list despite the hype. I definitely never placed him above Rigondeaux as I always felt he was never more skilled nor wanted to meet the challenge in Rigondeaux.

                      Once again he's avoided a fight with Rigondeaux. People love to use the excuse due to lack of activity and fights Rigo isn't placed high. So why is Lomachenko thought to be p4p top 3?
                      Nobody who shuts Russell out, makes Walters quit, and has shown to be very impressive, despite the close loss to salido, is a hype job. 9 fights with his resume isn't a hype job. Rigondeaux's opponents have not been that great, and more are likely basing it off of that.

                      I also don't understand why yet AGAIN we have to bring skin color into this discussion. It's completely ridiculous and a poor excuse to whine about a white or black, Latino, etc fighter. Lomachenko is a euro fighter who is highly skilled. Rigondeaux has changed his tun e and seems to have a respect for him from his last Twitter post, I'm not sure why fans of both just can't let that be good enough to also show respect to both.

                      Btw, your poll is ultra biased and you're a ****ing idiot.

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