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  • WesternChamp
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    #21
    Originally posted by Majic
    Im sure marquez wouldve knocked pacquiao out each time had pacquiao not been juicin for years.
    how did marquez knocked manny out then if pac was juicing in the 4th fight??

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    • Garry25
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      #22
      With Memo "Convicted Doper" Heredia on Marquez side!!
      Whos doping?

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      • Liondw
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        #23
        Horn should look to feint the jab and throw ththe right hook. That punch got Marquezi the first knockdown in the fourth fight. And ped's? It doesn't make you box better anyway, for those speaking of drugs. Vargas took steroids and still couldn't beat De La Hoya. It made him stronger to lift more weights and that kind of thing but not fight better. No ped can make your chin stronger either.

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        • ironmt
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mike D
          Yeah that for sure changed him dramatically as one would expect.

          Now he's a much more cautious, pick your spots sort of boxer-puncher. His aggressiveness now comes in calculated spots. Whereas before the KO he was for the most part all out aggression. He was more than willing to take sizable shots in a trade off that he'd get you even worse in an exchange.

          Like many fighters I think until you actually get KO'd like that -- you don't think it can happen. I know he has been stopped before, but that was in the early stages of his career and those stoppages were obviously worlds apart from the brutal Marquez KO.
          Completely agree, another good post as usual.

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          • Bronx23
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            #25
            Originally posted by Majic
            Im sure marquez wouldve knocked pacquiao out each time had pacquiao not been juicin for years.
            Juicing doesn't strengthen you chin or enhance your punch resistance. Nor does it give you better boxing ability.

            Do you even know what PEDs are?

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            • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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              #26
              For those saying PEDs don't make you box better, it's like saying Adderall doesn't make you a better football player.

              Certain drugs give different benefits. Some give you more focus and help you react better thus helping you do things that otherwise you would forget to do or whatever.

              So yes, some drugs do help you box better.

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              • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                #27
                Even professional gamers take **** like Addy cause it gives better reaction time, faster movements, etc etc.

                That's a PED. Something as simple as C4 is a PED. PED doesn't necessarily mean steroids.
                Last edited by .:: JSFD26 ::.; 06-29-2017, 11:39 AM.

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                • StefanYHU
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                  #28
                  If I had to guess, I'd say pacquiao was on EPO, stanozozol and HGH.

                  He just lost something once the allegations of doping emerged, it was fairly obvious after that.
                  Last edited by StefanYHU; 06-29-2017, 12:46 PM.

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                  • StefanYHU
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                    For those saying PEDs don't make you box better, it's like saying Adderall doesn't make you a better football player.

                    Certain drugs give different benefits. Some give you more focus and help you react better thus helping you do things that otherwise you would forget to do or whatever.

                    So yes, some drugs do help you box better.
                    For example, an 8 week training camp, with synthetic testosterone supplementation enables an aging fighter to achieve peak or even above peak physiological testosterone levels.

                    The fighter can recover quicker, train more often and depending on the testosterone derivative, can reduce body fat.

                    This is just testosterone, nevermind EPO and HGH.

                    So yeah, quite clearly, being able to train with the recovery capabilities of an young man is going to result in increased performance.

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                    • ceylon mooney
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                      #30
                      im not
                      makin a claim of PED use.

                      that bein said, PEDs especially steroids can significantly enhance ur performance in just about any contact sport. they dont all work the same, so proper use can be a lot like cooking. theres a real science to this stuff. u use & train to strengthen fast twitch muscle fibers yea u gonna have more knockouts for a lotta same reason u havin more home runs. of course u gotta be able to hit home runs and get knockouts first.

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