Comments Thread For: Canelo: Big Difference Between Me and The Guys Golovkin KO'd

[PunchyPotorff]

The difference is you haven't fought Golovkin yet. But don't worry, you'll be joining The Guys Golovkin KO'd club soon.

Either fighter is vulnerable, it all depends on who imposes their fighting style on the other one. But if you think GGG is walking thru Canelo like a day in the park, you're going to be really disappointed.

I just can't see Alvarez losing this one.
I think it will look a bit like Brook v Golovkin but Alvarez will have the size and skill to do it better than Brook and do it for 12 rounds. (I don't know why Brook was hyped up to be some killer welter. In my opinion he is an elite level Euro but not world level and I would actually pick Khan to beat him if they fight) and he was able to touch Golovkin.
Boxing, like all sports there are levels and I think that the difference in class between Alvarez and Golovkin's past opponents will be evident in this one.
Half the people on this board are going to go nuts over this next statement but I will say it anyway and I'm not even a fan of Alvarez - If Alvarez didn't have a promoter telling him otherwise I truly believe he fights Golovkin back when he won the MW title and said Mexican's Don't **** around. It's all De la hoya and the Goldenboy matchmakers for why the fight had to marinate. I especially believe this after seeing that Goldenboy's financial health is largely dependent on the success of Alvarez. If you think back to when Goldenboy had pretty much all of the PBC fighters as well, Alvarez was demanding to fight guys like Trout and Lara who are pretty much the definition of high risk low reward and even then De la hoya didn't like the idea but they let it happen because they had other fighters to fall back on. So I guess that's another reason why I think Alvarez wins, he is NOT scared like a lot of you claim he is.

Yep. Thing is, the Canelo haters will always and forever hate Canelo. And usually the first thing they bring up is the GGG first fight that didn't happen. So, in that way, Golden Boy skroo-ed up by allowing an onslaught of Canelo haters to constantly have something to whine about whenever Canelo's name comes up. But it is what it is. I don't see Canelo embarrassing himself in this fight. He did somewhat vs Floydie, because he had the wrong gameplan. He tried to box when he should have just let it all hang out and overwhelm Floydie. In this fight, he'll have a much better chance because his skill level has increased and his stamina is better. And he has the benefit of the Brook and Jacobs fights to watch to fine tune his game.

[Gillie]

Canelo survives a scare, but wins a ud...

That's about how I see it. There won't be any real controversy either.

[BigStomps]

The difference is you haven't fought Golovkin yet.

But don't worry, you'll be joining The Guys Golovkin KO'd club soon.

You keep thinking that fool!
Canelo is gonna tap g string's ass the same way I would tap your ass!

[BigStomps]

I just can't see Alvarez losing this one.

I think it will look a bit like Brook v Golovkin but Alvarez will have the size and skill to do it better than Brook and do it for 12 rounds. (I don't know why Brook was hyped up to be some killer welter. In my opinion he is an elite level Euro but not world level and I would actually pick Khan to beat him if they fight) and he was able to touch Golovkin.

Boxing, like all sports there are levels and I think that the difference in class between Alvarez and Golovkin's past opponents will be evident in this one.

Half the people on this board are going to go nuts over this next statement but I will say it anyway and I'm not even a fan of Alvarez - If Alvarez didn't have a promoter telling him otherwise I truly believe he fights Golovkin back when he won the MW title and said Mexican's Don't **** around. It's all De la hoya and the Goldenboy matchmakers for why the fight had to marinate. I especially believe this after seeing that Goldenboy's financial health is largely dependent on the success of Alvarez. If you think back to when Goldenboy had pretty much all of the PBC fighters as well, Alvarez was demanding to fight guys like Trout and Lara who are pretty much the definition of high risk low reward and even then De la hoya didn't like the idea but they let it happen because they had other fighters to fall back on. So I guess that's another reason why I think Alvarez wins, he is NOT scared like a lot of you claim he is.

Great post and assessment.
I agree with you on what you said that Canelo would have fought triple g back in May of last year if it was completely up to him.
This will be a great fight that either fighter can win but I definitely got my money on Canelo!

[-Antonio-]

I've been saying for years that I believe Canelo can beat Golovkin. Canelo is just a special fighter when his opponent stays in front of him. I haven't seen him really struggle there except against Mayweather.

To me it's a matter of can Golovkin pressure enough to tire Canelo out if that's how the fight goes.

Otherwise GGG is better of trying to use his jab like he did against Lemiuex. Cotto and Khan both landed their jab and right hand pretty frequently against Canelo.

[angkag]

Said it before, but a lot of the perceptions of this fight come from Golovkin's performance vs Jacobs and Canelo's performance against Chavez.

If Golovkin had fought Chavez (at 164.5) and Canelo had fought Jacobs (at 160), what would we likely have seen ?

Golovkin would likely have blown out that version of Chavez, and would Canelo have even beaten Jacobs ? There might be very different perceptions going into this fight if we had different fights in the past.

Canelo and Jacobs are very different fighters, both extremely good, but Canelo doesn't have some of the attributes Jacobs has that we know troubles Golovkin - ie combination of size, power and foot speed. Canelo is relatively small at 160 (Canelo 5'9'', Golovkin 5' 10.5'', Jacobs 5' 11.5''), his power at 160 is yet to be known, but he doesn't have the foot speed Jacobs has.

His main attribute is hand speed and combinations, at that all relies on Golovkin staying in the 'uppercut pocket' where Canelo's best weapons can be deployed. If Golovkin keeps out of that zone and keeps Canelo on the end of his rangier jab, Canelo will have to find a way to get past the jab to deploy - same task that Lemieux had.

Canelo is more skilled than Lemieux, so not saying that can't happen, but the fight will all be about Canelo getting into range to where he has a debatable advantage - ie the trading area where it will be his combinations and defence vs Golovkin's power.

But firstly he has to get past the jab, and even then how Canelo comes out of exchanges is an unknown. Going to be a very stern test for him for sure.

[BoxAztinca]

Golovkin is gonna jab Canelo's head all night. Canelo better turn GGG, because if he can't, he's gonna get backed up to the ropes. And Canelo ain't James toney. He has nice defense, but u don't want GGG to have u on the ropes

[BOXINGADICT]

Canela you diva you knocked out bums like kirklan and glass chin amir queen con....

[SteveM]

I just can't see Alvarez losing this one.

I think it will look a bit like Brook v Golovkin but Alvarez will have the size and skill to do it better than Brook and do it for 12 rounds. (I don't know why Brook was hyped up to be some killer welter. In my opinion he is an elite level Euro but not world level and I would actually pick Khan to beat him if they fight) and he was able to touch Golovkin.

Boxing, like all sports there are levels and I think that the difference in class between Alvarez and Golovkin's past opponents will be evident in this one.

Half the people on this board are going to go nuts over this next statement but I will say it anyway and I'm not even a fan of Alvarez - If Alvarez didn't have a promoter telling him otherwise I truly believe he fights Golovkin back when he won the MW title and said Mexican's Don't **** around. It's all De la hoya and the Goldenboy matchmakers for why the fight had to marinate. I especially believe this after seeing that Goldenboy's financial health is largely dependent on the success of Alvarez. If you think back to when Goldenboy had pretty much all of the PBC fighters as well, Alvarez was demanding to fight guys like Trout and Lara who are pretty much the definition of high risk low reward and even then De la hoya didn't like the idea but they let it happen because they had other fighters to fall back on. So I guess that's another reason why I think Alvarez wins, he is NOT scared like a lot of you claim he is.

Good points. I doubt that Canelo is scared. I'm sure he isn't. Most of Golovkins opponents have gone in to the fight thinking they could handle his power - Curtis Stevens, Lemieux or out box him - Monroe Jr. , Brook and Jacobs. Stevens look on his face when he was down on the ground is an alltime classic look. The reality changed in the ring.

I agree that it could look a bit like Brook vs GGG. But ... Canelo is not quite as quick as Brook but his combos and handspeed are probably a tad sharper. Also Canelo will be able to withstand the power more than Brook.

Golovkin seems to be starting to mark up a lot worse the last 2 fights. It seems his face marks up more than it should do considering the incoming. Sure he got hit flush by Brook but only for 2 rounds . Canelo will connect harder and for more rounds. I'm thinking that he might get cut badly this fight and Canelo might win on that - stoppage on doctors orders. That would be crazy Vegas **** but nothing would surprise me there anymore.

[SteveM]

Golovkin is gonna jab Canelo's head all night. Canelo better turn GGG, because if he can't, he's gonna get backed up to the ropes. And Canelo ain't James toney. He has nice defense, but u don't want GGG to have u on the ropes

Canelo's head movement is going to be a problem for the Golovkin jab