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  • juggernaut666
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    #11
    Originally posted by Deus
    For the 200th time... AJ is not free to target Wilder next. Even if you're gonna claim that Klitschko doesn't have a rematch clause (how on earth you'd know that is beyond me?) so Joshua can ignore Klitschko he cannot ignore Pulev. IBF have stipulated that Pulev is next (or next after Klitschko) and that there can be no unifications in between.

    End of thread.
    This ^^^^^^^^^


    I swear these posters are on crack !

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    • koolkc107
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      #12
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      This ^^^^^^^^^


      I swear these posters are on crack !
      Yeah, either on crack or...we can read?

      Anthony Joshua will have the option of triggering an immediate rematch with Wladimir Klitschko if he is beaten in their Wembley showdown on Saturday — but the Ukrainian legend does not have the same clause.

      It has been suggested that each fighter would be able to invoke a rematch following the heavyweight blockbuster this weekend.

      But Sportsmail understands only Joshua has the clause in his deal, meaning the IBF world champion would have a rapid opportunity to avenge himself in the event of a first career defeat.


      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...se-beaten.html


      "The IBF are not aware of any rematch clause for the Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko fight. We expect the winner of the April 29 unification to do the IBF mandatory next."

      http://www.***************.net/2017/...mandatory-next

      The are a sanctioning body. A huge fight means sanctioning fees and other crap the sanctioning body can pull. I'm guessing even the IBF will like a Wilder/Joshua fight a little more than a Joshua/Pulev fight...but that's just me making sense I guess.
      Last edited by koolkc107; 06-25-2017, 11:33 AM.

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      • Deus
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        #13
        Originally posted by koolkc107;17799644[url
        http://www.***************.net/2017/04/22/news/exclusive-ibf-not-aware-of-joshua-v-klitschko-rematch-clause-expect-winner-to-face-mandatory-next[/url]

        The are a sanctioning body. A huge fight means sanctioning fees and other crap the sanctioning body can pull. I'm guessing even the IBF will like a Wilder/Joshua fight a little more than a Joshua/Pulev fight...but that's just me making sense I guess.
        Nope, that's just you pulling stuff out of your ass.

        If the IBF would like Wilder v Joshua more than Joshua v Pulev then they wouldn't have stated in their exceptions the following:

        3. After the rematch the IBF will not consider a request for unification from the winner.

        or..

        4. There shall be no further exceptions considered by the IBF regarding Anthony Joshua, or Wladimir Klitschko should he win the bout, prior to the completion of the mandatory bout with Kubrat Pulev.

        - http://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-kl...-order--117344

        But let's not let actual facts get in the way of your story shall we?

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        • koolkc107
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          #14
          Originally posted by Deus
          Nope, that's just you pulling stuff out of your ass.

          If the IBF would like Wilder v Joshua more than Joshua v Pulev then they wouldn't have stated in their exceptions the following:

          3. After the rematch the IBF will not consider a request for unification from the winner.

          or..

          4. There shall be no further exceptions considered by the IBF regarding Anthony Joshua, or Wladimir Klitschko should he win the bout, prior to the completion of the mandatory bout with Kubrat Pulev.

          - http://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-kl...-order--117344

          But let's not let actual facts get in the way of your story shall we?
          So, you are telling me the IBF would, in the absence of Wlad not getting a rematch, prefer a Pulev fight to a Wilder fight?

          OK...

          And yeah, way to go sidestepping the rematch clause issue, then talking about someone else pulling something out their ass in the same post.

          I applaud your ability, Sir...

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          • juggernaut666
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            #15
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            Yeah, either on crack or...we can read?

            Anthony Joshua will have the option of triggering an immediate rematch with Wladimir Klitschko if he is beaten in their Wembley showdown on Saturday — but the Ukrainian legend does not have the same clause.

            It has been suggested that each fighter would be able to invoke a rematch following the heavyweight blockbuster this weekend.

            But Sportsmail understands only Joshua has the clause in his deal, meaning the IBF world champion would have a rapid opportunity to avenge himself in the event of a first career defeat.


            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...se-beaten.html


            "The IBF are not aware of any rematch clause for the Anthony Joshua v Wladimir Klitschko fight. We expect the winner of the April 29 unification to do the IBF mandatory next."

            http://www.***************.net/2017/...mandatory-next

            The are a sanctioning body. A huge fight means sanctioning fees and other crap the sanctioning body can pull. I'm guessing even the IBF will like a Wilder/Joshua fight a little more than a Joshua/Pulev fight...but that's just me making sense I guess.
            You and the rest of the wilder crack heads on here couldnt make sense if you tried!

            Its not a question of WHAT or if /when and why or who prefers what match.....its about a contract agreement that Joshua has with the IBF fighting Pulev so he doesnt lose his belt...crack head.
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-25-2017, 11:52 AM.

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            • koolkc107
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              #16
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              You and the rest of the wilder crack heads on here couldnt make sense if you tried!

              Its not a question of WHAt or if /when and why...its about a contract agreement that joshua has with the IBf fighting Pulev...crack head.
              Like he had before he got an exemption.

              And despite what the IBF says, sanctioning bodies change their minds all the time.

              But, it's convenient for some to act like everything a sanctioning body does is written in stone if it will allow them to argue against what anyone knows makes THE MOST SENSE for Joshua's next fight if it isn't Klitschko.

              That's more crackhead-like than anything I am saying...

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              • Deus
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                #17
                Originally posted by koolkc107
                So, you are telling me the IBF would, in the absence of Wlad not getting a rematch, prefer a Pulev fight to a Wilder fight?

                OK...

                And yeah, way to go sidestepping the rematch clause issue, then talking about someone else pulling something out their ass in the same post.

                I applaud your ability, Sir...
                Yes. Quite clearly. Else they would not have explicitly stated that Pulev gets the next shot. They didn't have to outline all of those exceptions but they choose to do so, that makes it pretty clear that that is their intention.

                Beyond that, say your theory is right... Pulev has already been given written clarification that he is next, so what do you think he would do if the IBF then go back on their word?

                An no sidestepping on the rematch clause. I wasn't aware of that newspaper article and now I am. That doesn't actually change anything though regarding Joshua's situation...
                Last edited by Deus; 06-25-2017, 12:01 PM.

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                • juggernaut666
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by koolkc107
                  Like he had before he got an exemption.

                  And despite what the IBF says, sanctioning bodies change their minds all the time.

                  But, it's convenient for some to act like everything a sanctioning body does is written in stone if it will allow them to argue against what anyone knows makes THE MOST SENSE for Joshua's next fight if it isn't Klitschko.

                  That's more crackhead-like than anything I am saying...
                  You clearly havent a clue of actual reality like 90% of the wilder fanatics...keep living in fantasy land with absurd views of how you THINK boxing is run!

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                  • yammy25
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                    #19
                    Whoever that is quoting daily mail articles about the contracts before the first fight took place.. the article is incorrect.

                    Eddie hearn has stated numerous times that klitschko did/does indeed have an option for a rematch, and hearn would have had to notify the IBF of such before they made the call to exempt the pulev mandatory should this rematch take place.

                    Nobody has a chance to face AJ this year other than klitschko or Pulev is klitschko chooses not to rematch. Wilder fans need to accept this.. get with reality, and get behind their hero maybe having the chance to fight someone ranked in the WBC top 10 for a change for a career high pay day.

                    P.S.
                    Hearn met with sulaiman and stated that he was told aslong as stiverne and don king are happy with step aside figures, wbc will happily sanction so.......**** your long awaited showdown with grandpa stiverne too.

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                    • sicko
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                      #20
                      All those fights will happen eventually! Some fans want every big fight to happen THIS YEAR and that is not realistic at all! It takes MONEY and since the people who do the most complain don't buy PPV's or Tickets to go watch the fights live. STFU and be patient!

                      Boxing ALWAYS makes the big fights we want to see eventually! We always have our hand out for big match ups but yet to help Promoters pay these fighters, Often Times the fans are not showing gratitude for the big match ups by buying PPV's or Tickets! Eddie Hearn can put up BIG MONEY to get a Charles Martin to go to the UK because he knows UK fans will support the PPV and buy Tickets. In the States we have have a ton of entitled Fans who feel they have the right to complain even tho they're always asking for a Link during Big PPV Fights! To those fans STFU you don't buy nothing anyway!
                      Last edited by sicko; 06-25-2017, 12:32 PM.

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