the recent american dominance over the sport?

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  • Godsfly
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    the recent american dominance over the sport?

    boxing was a mixed bag just a year ago.

    jacobs (argubly beating golovkin)
    ward (pummeling kovalov into submission)
    crawford (dominating & boxing postols ears completly off)
    porter
    spence
    wilder
    thurman
    mickey
    davis
    2 charlo twins
    even broken down broner is still somehow hanging in there.


    what happened to the diversity of boxing. and please, this is not a debate on excuses complaints & bickering back and fourth so please leave that at the door. what happened to the diversity of the sport.
    Last edited by Godsfly; 06-24-2017, 11:18 AM.
  • Godsfly
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    and what the hell happened to Argentina. sergio, lucas, maidana. no other fighters sprung out. chaves was very underrated and at the top of to chart but went un noticed. argentina was producing heavy hitters too.

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    • techliam
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      #3
      The only division where Americans are 'dominating' are 140 and 147, both fairly weak divisions

      Only two American fighters who are noteworthy are Ward and Crawford. Include Mayweather if you want, but he's cashing out like Pacquiao

      Just goes to show how boxing is a global sport

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      • Real King Kong
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        #4
        Originally posted by techliam
        The only division where Americans are 'dominating' are 140 and 147, both fairly weak divisions

        Only two American fighters who are noteworthy are Ward and Crawford. Include Mayweather if you want, but he's cashing out like Pacquiao

        Just goes to show how boxing is a global sport
        You can add 154 to that. Outside that, the lions share of top contenders/belt holders across all divisions aren't american.

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        • Tom Cruise
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          #5
          Ring P4P year 2000:

          Shane Mosley
          Felix Trinidad
          Roy Jones Jr.
          Oscar De La Hoya
          Diego Corrales

          Naseem Hamed
          Floyd Mayweather Jr.
          Lennox Lewis
          Erik Morales
          Bernard Hopkins

          Ring P4P current:

          Andre Ward
          GGG
          Gonzalez
          Crawford
          Lomachenko
          Rigondeaux
          Kovalev
          Alvarez
          Yamanaka
          Inoue

          *i would definitely have Mikey Garcia in there. Its a pretty poor list all round actually, but only Garcia missing out of US boxers imo.

          American boxing isnt and never was dead, but times have definitely changed this century.

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          • Godsfly
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            #6
            Originally posted by techliam
            The only division where Americans are 'dominating' are 140 and 147, both fairly weak divisions

            Only two American fighters who are noteworthy are Ward and Crawford. Include Mayweather if you want, but he's cashing out like Pacquiao

            Just goes to show how boxing is a global sport
            dominating divisions is turd logic.

            you have to break it down by specifics because u could have one division where it all around just sucks.

            mexico
            canelo
            estrada
            chavez jr.?

            russia
            kovalov
            artur beterbiev
            ?

            ukrane
            wlad
            golovkin

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            • MASTERBX
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              HBO can hype these foreign fighters but they can't make them great fighters.

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              • -PBP-
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                #8
                Depends on the division and the amount of television coverage.

                I still think the sport is still a mixed bag

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                • champion4ever
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MASTERBX
                  HBO can hype these foreign fighters but they can't make them great fighters.
                  You are absolutely right. They will never catch on with the American viewing audience. HBO has unsuccessfully made futile attempts with this since the Klitschko boys and they never became popular, mainstream, crossover stars in the U.S. They were forced to pack up and go back to Germany.

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                  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Godsfly
                    boxing was a mixed bag just a year ago.

                    jacobs (argubly beating golovkin)
                    ward (pummeling kovalov into submission)
                    crawford (dominating & boxing postols ears completly off)
                    porter
                    spence
                    wilder
                    thurman
                    mickey
                    davis
                    2 charlo twins
                    even broken down broner is still somehow hanging in there.


                    what happened to the diversity of boxing. and please, this is not a debate on excuses complaints & bickering back and fourth so please leave that at the door. what happened to the diversity of the sport.
                    I think it goes through phases. like generations.

                    Like the russian they are all over here becuse of one man, Egis Klimas if it wasnt for him 99% of them wouldnt be here in the U.S. boxing.

                    I think it goes like that for other races etc if you look at someone like Sampson Lewcowicz he brings over a bunch of mixed bag of races, spanairds, argentenias, etc etc.

                    just the flow of natural life.

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