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  • Godsfly
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    #21
    Originally posted by RussTBE
    jacobs presents a tougher matchup for him, so yeah.
    and he arguably lost to jacobs

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    • JakeTheBoxer
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      #22
      Originally posted by larryxxx.
      Canelo is a much better fighter than Jacobs man
      Maybe, but smaller.

      Lomachenko is better fighter than Joshua if you get the point.

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      • Graz
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        #23
        Originally posted by RussTBE
        jacobs presents a tougher matchup for him, so yeah.
        Agree. Jacobs is a bigger and more talented fighter with more range than Canelo. I think Jacobs would give Canelo fits. He's more dominant than Lara. Remembering back the Lara/Canelo fight could have gone either way. As they say styles make fights. There's no quit in either Golovkin or Canelo so it should be very entertaining. Having said that I don't think Canelo can hurt Golovkin but if the fight goes the distance who knows, it's left up to the judges and anything can happen.

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        • ray moe
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          #24
          Originally posted by Graz
          Agree. Jacobs is a bigger and more talented fighter with more range than Canelo. I think Jacobs would give Canelo fits. He's more dominant than Lara. Remembering back the Lara/Canelo fight could have gone either way. As they say styles make fights. There's no quit in either Golovkin or Canelo so it should be very entertaining. Having said that I don't think Canelo can hurt Golovkin but if the fight goes the distance who knows, it's left up to the judges and anything can happen.
          I jacob is more talented than canelo, I'm ronald reagan.

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          • Graz
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            #25
            Originally posted by ray moe
            I jacob is more talented than canelo, I'm ronald reagan.
            Hi Ronald Don't get me wrong. I'm a Canelo fan. I just think Jacobs style is all wrong for Canelo. I doubt very much if GB would sign a fight with him unless there was a huge money grab in it. Not sure if that's likely.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              Maybe, but smaller.

              Lomachenko is better fighter than Joshua if you get the point.
              Lol ppl on this side are comical ,Canelo is 5'7 he cant be a threat for GGG

              He have a lot of skills going for him and GGG style is perfect for him.Trout and Chavez was also taller and Canelo was finding them with no problems ,Trout was even leaning back.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
                GGG is not a fighter with big out put or great stamina Either.
                I dont really like compubox much, but if your eyes aint telling you the same as mine I guess its a relevent resource. Both are A sides and darlings of HBO so one would hope any bias should be fairly balanced. GGGs typically a 65 - 70 punch a round guy and can keep that **** up consistantly over 12. Canelos on average about a 40 punch a round guy whose output varies considerably over the course of a fight. Both guys are highly accurate (over 40%). Golovkin has an exceptional jab (against the level of opposition hes faced) whereas Canelos is accurate but underutilized. Against their most recent foes each landed and threw about the same number of punches so things may be less disparate than the historical stats suggest... except that Canello was fighting an ambulatory heavy bag (and still got fatigued) whereas Golovkin landed the same number against a mobile target under a storm of return fire.

                I could be wrong about the outcome man, my pick em results sure as **** don't inspire confidence.. but about who is the volume pucher with the engine? I ain't wrong about that.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 06-24-2017, 07:17 AM.

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                • Mr Objecitivity
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                  #28
                  Daniel Jacobs is a 'BETTER' MIDDLEWEIGHT than Canelo Alvarez just by virtue of Daniel Jacobs having more success at middleweight than Canelo Alvarez and Canelo Alvarez having 0 success / accomplishments at middleweight / 160 pounds.

                  Who is more talented and etc. can become irrelevant here. I'm sure most would agree that Vasyl Lomachenko is more talented and skilled than Anthony Joshua. However, they'd also have to agree that Anthony Joshua would be a much riskier and dangerous fight for someone like Oleksandr Usyk than Vasyl Lomachenko.

                  A bigger sized skillful opponent (Daniel Jacobs) is more and riskier as an opponent than a smaller sized skillful opponent (Canelo Alvarez).

                  When evaluating fights, we have to go by the weight class the fight is happening in and who has the better accomplishments at that SPECIFIC weight class. Canelo Alvarez's success below middleweight / 160 pounds becomes irrelevant because this fight is happening at 160 pounds. The same way Oleksandr Usyk's success at cruiserweight will be irrelevant when evaluating a potential fight between him and Anthony Joshua at heavyweight.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    I dont really like compubox much, but if your eyes aint telling you the same as mine I guess its a relevent resource. Both are A sides and darlings of HBO so one would hope any bias should be fairly balanced. GGGs typically a 65 - 70 punch a round guy and can keep that **** up consistantly over 12. Canelos on average about a 40 punch a round guy whose output varies considerably over the course of a fight. Both guys are highly accurate (over 40%). Golovkin has an exceptional jab (against the level of opposition hes faced) whereas Canelos is accurate but underutilized. Against their most recent foes each landed and threw about the same number of punches so things may be less disparate than the historical stats suggest... except that Canello was fighting an ambulatory heavy bag (and still got fatigued) whereas Golovkin landed the same number against a mobile target under a storm of return fire.

                    I could be wrong about the outcome man, my pick em results sure as **** don't inspire confidence.. but about who is the volume pucher with the engine? I ain't wrong about that.
                    70 per round is not some impossible **** doe ,also GGG is takeing breaks ,you cant say he isnt ,wheather Canelo is getting gassed or not ,his not showing it ,imo if GGG wins this fight its not by output but tactic and power.

                    GGG thrown on avarage 51 punches vs Jacobs so its not some monster out put.

                    just sayin that in my humble opinion stamina wont be a huge factor here,but body shots can be.

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                    • Mr Objecitivity
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Canelo and GGG
                      Lol ppl on this side are comical ,Canelo is 5'7 he cant be a threat for GGG

                      He have a lot of skills going for him and GGG style is perfect for him.Trout and Chavez was also taller and Canelo was finding them with no problems ,Trout was even leaning back.
                      Those are all success against light middleweight opposition. Canelo Alvarez's skills have only been displayed against opposition below 160 pounds. Thus, it's irrelevant because this fight against GGG is happening at 160 pounds and Canelo Alvarez has shown no 'skills' at 160 pounds against a top middleweight simply by virtue of having no fights at 160 pounds. He also has no accomplishments at 160 pounds either.

                      Similarly, Terence Crawford's 'skills' or accomplishments shown below 160 pounds is irrelevant when discussing a potential fight between Crawford and GGG at 160 pounds. Those 'skills' or accomplishments are relevant only if he can show them at 160 pounds as well.

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