Let's be real, Ward moving up in weight again is a terrible idea

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  • Buckfever
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    #21
    They're not serious, they're using the opportunity to strengthen the brand. Which is well deserved.

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    • FinitoxDinamita
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      #22
      No i fully support the move up. Id love to see ward face Joshua and eat one of his right hands flush.

      Ward is a cheater and i dislike people like that. Fake ass christian.

      Lets see him eat a right hand from a HW and convulse on the canvas like an infantile ******.

      *** ward

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      • firstborn
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        #23
        he won't move. imo ward will fight a couple more of times, maybe stevenson, then another easy fight and retired, the guy doesn't give a **** about the sport anyways.
        What makes you say that? Ward has literally dedicated his life to boxing.

        Back on topic, a fight with Bellew would be cool to see. Ward gets hurt against real HW contenders....a fight with Joshua is out of the question.

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        • Cutthroat
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          #24
          Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
          Cruiserweight is 200lbs. .
          That's the limit, a lot of guys come in below that though. Makabu, a top 10 cruiser was 196 against Bellew. Bellew himself was 199 but was mostly carrying fat and water weight. Glowacki 198 carrying a lot of fat etc.

          HW and LHW leave cruiser relatively weak.

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          • Cutthroat
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            #25
            Originally posted by BrometheusBob.



            Personally I believe 190 is quite underrated. I just can't imagine Ward succeeding against a guy like Usyk. Ward showed he can outboxed on the outside by someone like Kovalev, imagine if a much bigger fighter with a much longer reach like Usyk was on the other end. It's a nightmare matchup for Ward.

            I think Ward beats 90% of the guys of the division, he probably loses to Usyk and Gassiev, but beats mostly everybody else.
            His speed and reflexes at that weight would be insane, guys would have serious trouble landing on him. Guys had trouble with Bellew's speed and reflexes, you can imagine what Ward would do.

            Bellew went from getting a whopping from Stevenson to knocking out Masternak, Makabu (top 10 cruiser) and Flores, all previously unstopped. Vlasov is another guy that moved up and defeated Chakhiev.

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            • Canelo and GGG
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              #26
              Its only a show boys

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              • SplitSecond
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                #27
                He can put on the muscle easy with the help he's got, I think he actually can compete. Like a smaller holyfield.
                Last edited by SplitSecond; 06-18-2017, 04:17 PM.

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                • j0zef
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by -PBP-
                  He should defend his titles and clean out 175.

                  Then if he wants to test himself at heavyweight make it his last fight.


                  There are no John Ruiz level belt holders right now though.
                  Joseph Parker is Ruiz level opponent. Dude's horrible. I don't think he can outbox Wilder or AJ for 12 rounds. CW has some dangerous fights, but a lot of them are very beatable. Gassiev (who I realllly like), is still extremely raw and can be outboxed. Even old Levedev was outboxing a lot. Briedis is also raw and can be outboxed. Dangerous puncher though. Usyk is an interesting fight - they're both highly skilled, but neither is a huge puncher. That can be a great chess match.

                  Having said that, I'm generally against any LHW moving up to CW. That weight difference is just too much. You'd never be a true champion and would have to cherry pick your opponents (like Ruiz).

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                  • just the facts
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by bigdramashow
                    he'd get found out against usyk, believe me...
                    Is this another race thing or are you truly this ******? Ward or Kovalev easily beat Usyk. EASILY!

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                    • BrometheusBob.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by just the facts
                      Is this another race thing or are you truly this ******? Ward or Kovalev easily beat Usyk. EASILY!
                      For a guy name just the facts you seem pretty opinionated.

                      Usyk kills either of them

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