Can both sides be honest with themselves here?

[Ray*]

I don't think Kovalev makes it to the 12th, because weeks didn't let us find that out ourselves.

[Elroy The Great]

1. The stoppage was dreadful and those shots were definitely low.
2. Ward had taken over that round and Kov was going to lose.

If it wasn't by stoppage, he was going to win on points. The fight was about even in rounds at that point and Kov was not only hurt but clearly fading again. Ward had looked much better in the preceding two rounds

BUT

That stoppage was brutal even if those punches were legal. Which they weren't they were all low, some of them very low.

1) NO STANDING 8

2) kov assumed the ''please save me'' position. not really giving weeks much of a choice.

3) how many brain damaged/dead boxers do we need ?

4) us fans make too much of ''low'' blows''. they dont hurt nearly as much as you think. kov said as much HIMSELF.

5) kov was ROCKED. sog was not going to let up. the fight was going to end that rd.

6) kov wants a chance to lose for a 3rd time. i say let him.

7) sometimes a guy will contort his body where a punch will have no choice but to land ''low''.

8) lastly, 99.23 % of boxers who cry over ''low'' blows use it as a way of catching a time out or stop the onslaught. more than a few times (zab did it multiple times) a ref deemed a punch was NOT LOW and order the fight to continue. that wounded fighter IMMEDIATELY recovered. somehow the debilitating pain went away !!!!

ward is a boxer.
kov is a puncher.
boxers usually make the better adjustments in rematches.

[vman075]

1) NO STANDING 8

2) kov assumed the ''please save me'' position. not really giving weeks much of a choice.

3) how many brain damaged/dead boxers do we need ?

4) us fans make too much of ''low'' blows''. they dont hurt nearly as much as you think. kov said as much HIMSELF.

5) kov was ROCKED. sog was not going to let up. the fight was going to end that rd.

6) kov wants a chance to lose for a 3rd time. i say let him.

7) sometimes a guy will contort his body where a punch will have no choice but to land ''low''.

8) lastly, 99.23 % of boxers who cry over ''low'' blows use it as a way of catching a time out or stop the onslaught. more than a few times (zab did it multiple times) a ref deemed a punch was NOT LOW and order the fight to continue. that wounded fighter IMMEDIATELY recovered. somehow the debilitating pain went away !!!!

ward is a boxer.
kov is a puncher.
boxers usually make the better adjustments in rematches.

I wonder who you were rooting for...

1. There wouldn't have been a standing 8 since he fell on the ropes, it would have been called a regular KD.

2. Kov's please save me was him trying to motion it was low.

3. PLEAAAASE man with the brain damage, he wasn't taken a sustained beating, he got hit with a really good shot. It was also stopped on body shots, not an accumulation of head shots. Maybe the dumbest argument i've heard about the reason it was stopped. Omg that was ******.

4. No matter what you think of how much they hurt, low blows are illegal. It's nobodys call whether a low blow should be called bc it hurt, it should be called bc it's not a legal punch.

5. I agree he wasn't going to let up, but there was like 30 seconds left at that point, let's not pretend he had that much more to go.

6. I don't care to see a third fight, like I said, I thought Kov was on his way to another loss.

7.Again, it doesn't matter if the body was contorted, you're allowed to bend at the waist, you're still not allowed to throw low.

8. For the last time, it's an illegal punch. Yea, guys take advantage of the rules of getting a break on a low blow but those are the rules if you are hit illegally. It's illegal to throw low, doesn't matter the reaction, how much it hurts, how much he needed a break. A fight shouldn't be stopped on illegal punches.

Lastly, if you've watched these guys for 20 rounds now and still consider Kov just a puncher, please stop commenting on boxing.

[Elroy The Great]

I wonder who you were rooting for...

1. There wouldn't have been a standing 8 since he fell on the ropes, it would have been called a regular KD.

2. Kov's please save me was him trying to motion it was low.

3. PLEAAAASE man with the brain damage, he wasn't taken a sustained beating, he got hit with a really good shot. It was also stopped on body shots, not an accumulation of head shots. Maybe the dumbest argument i've heard about the reason it was stopped. Omg that was ******.

4. No matter what you think of how much they hurt, low blows are illegal. It's nobodys call whether a low blow should be called bc it hurt, it should be called bc it's not a legal punch.

5. I agree he wasn't going to let up, but there was like 30 seconds left at that point, let's not pretend he had that much more to go.

6. I don't care to see a third fight, like I said, I thought Kov was on his way to another loss.

7.Again, it doesn't matter if the body was contorted, you're allowed to bend at the waist, you're still not allowed to throw low.

8. For the last time, it's an illegal punch. Yea, guys take advantage of the rules of getting a break on a low blow but those are the rules if you are hit illegally. It's illegal to throw low, doesn't matter the reaction, how much it hurts, how much he needed a break. A fight shouldn't be stopped on illegal punches.

Lastly, if you've watched these guys for 20 rounds now and still consider Kov just a puncher, please stop commenting on boxing.

im a fan of both guys but having to pick one, id pick sog....

1) guys fall into the ropes all the time and theyre not called kd's. refs just position themselves closer, ready to step in.

2) what ?!?!?!? maybe they were ''low'' because of how his own body was positioned ?!?!? 2 of the shots were on the belt.

3) are you saying i have brain damage ? if so, dont be so salty. if not i dont get what you mean by ''man with brain damage''. why is it fan boys get so emotional when their hero is somehow ''dissed''. again, IF you are saying i have brain damage because you feel i slighted your hero, kov wouldnt give 1 shlt if i called you an idiot.

anyway, if you watch the benn vs gman fight, benn wasnt landing any truly thudding shots. even the shots behind the head appeared to be grazing shots. kovs instant reaction appeared to be a call for help, SO, ''OMG'', SETTLE YOURSELF.

4) fan boys are crying bloody murder as if those ''low'' blows were game changers. ''omg, he will never have kids now........and i was so looking forward to seeing them grow up.......''. from his own mouth he said he ''felt them'' but were insignificant. let grown men fight already, damn !

5) did you see how fast the fight changed for jlc vs chico 1 (another weeks fight) ?!?!? 1 second he was landing crisps combos, the next second hes a helpless punching bag. 30 seconds could be long as fnck.

6) moving on.....

7) no youre not allowed to bend your body to such an extent that youre forcing your opponents punches to land illegally. refs will tell a guy to not bend so low or to keep his head ''up''.

8) let the refs handle so called ''low'' blows. obviously they know how boxers use those opportunity to catch a break.

9) whats kovs ko % again ?!?!? and compared to sog's ?!?!?!? do tell me you think kov is more slick brova than a slugging KRUSHER.


take up needle point. you wont get as frustrated.

[soul_survivor]

1. The stoppage was dreadful and those shots were definitely low.
2. Ward had taken over that round and Kov was going to lose.

If it wasn't by stoppage, he was going to win on points. The fight was about even in rounds at that point and Kov was not only hurt but clearly fading again. Ward had looked much better in the preceding two rounds

BUT

That stoppage was brutal even if those punches were legal. Which they weren't they were all low, some of them very low.

Ward was certainly having a good round but why does one godo round mean that he would "certainly" win?

Imagin if the fight was stopped after AJ took several unasnwered shots to the head, would the response be "oh yeah but Wlad was gonna win anyway" be relevant ? Of course not, because we know fighters can come back and in a championship bout a fighter should be given every posisbility.

You guys have shot yoruselevs in the foot yet again, like you all did last time with "the fight was close" but gave Ward 6 out of the 6 last rounds.

[Donnie Herrera]

be honest connor will serve boxing its long awaited justice

Black Power✊🏾

[mlac]

That's a very naive way of looking at it. Kov started fading after the 7th in which he got hit by an indisputable low blow that weeks did not call.

He got hit by another one in the 8th, 10 seconds before he ate the monster right hand.

There's a reason why those shots are illegal and can require 5 minute rest period.

You can't ignore the low blows and jump straight to the stoppage, which had its own severe problems.

Your one of the most unbiased & reasonable posters on here mate.

I cannot stand when idiots use ' well this would of happened anyway' like they are Nostradamus

[redmish]

Tony weeks made a mistake. That mistake robbed us all of a definitive KO and gave kovalev the mother of all excuses.

[SN!PER]

As i was a neutral, i'd say Ward was coming on strong there but the stoppage was a joke. Even if we pretend the shots were legal, there was no reason at all for Weeks to jump in and call the fight off.

Ward was doing well but Kovalev wasn't even given a chance.

I agree, with a fight of this magnitude you can't stop it like that.

If the situation was reversed I'm sure Ward would've been angry too.

[The Big Dunn]

1. The stoppage was dreadful and those shots were definitely low.
2. Ward had taken over that round and Kov was going to lose.

If it wasn't by stoppage, he was going to win on points. The fight was about even in rounds at that point and Kov was not only hurt but clearly fading again. Ward had looked much better in the preceding two rounds

BUT

That stoppage was brutal even if those punches were legal. Which they weren't they were all low, some of them very low.

Good post. Fair points made.