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  • FLY TY
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    #41
    Originally posted by ESAU
    Khan got robbed. No, despite Peterson testing for roida it never was..

    Let me go on. Felix Sturm robbed against Oscar. Kotelbik robbed again t Alexander. Mattthysse robbed against Alexander a d Judah.

    Name me some American fighters robbed overseas...

    Kovalev may live here but he is perceived and he'll even introduced as a Russian fighter!!! It is not fair to subject him to three American judges and ref when fighting an American IN America.

    The fact that it was so close even further buttressed my point - when a round is close an American judge could subconsciously give it to the American fighter. Oh, and how convenient Ward got every single close round!!! LOL he even managed to win the 10th round on two scorecards!!! Hahahaha

    It just doesn't make any sense. There's NO WAY an American would ever fight a Russian in Russia with three Russia. Judges and Russian ref. Point blank period. /discussion

    Overseas
    Dirrell-Froch
    Holyfield-Valuev
    Whitaker-Ramirez I
    Mayweather olympics (in US, foreign judges)
    RJJ olympics

    Foreigners in the US
    Chavez-Whitaker
    Trinidad-De la Hoya
    Mayweather-Canelo gets a Draw on a scorecard
    Escalera-Everitt
    Chavez-Vera

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      #42
      Originally posted by Johnny Steele
      No.
      The American got away with using steroids.
      And having some shady scumbag tamper with the scorecards.

      "america fair shake doe"



      What the f.uck are you babbling about???
      I'm babbling because you failed to quote my post that addressed what you quoted....follow along, dummy.

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        #43
        Originally posted by FLY TY
        Overseas
        Dirrell-Froch
        Holyfield-Valuev
        Whitaker-Ramirez I
        Mayweather olympics (in US, foreign judges)
        RJJ olympics

        Foreigners in the US
        Chavez-Whitaker
        Trinidad-De la Hoya
        Mayweather-Canelo gets a Draw on a scorecard
        Escalera-Everitt
        Chavez-Vera

        But did they have all three english judges? NOPE! And that wasn't a robbery.

        Valuev Holyfield - FAIL - took place in Switzerland the bloody most neutral country ever. But that was a Terri me decision. It was two foreign fighters, doe, and u could argue Switzerland and USA are closer culturally than Russia and Switzerland.


        With all the foreign fighters I've named getting robbed in America I'm still a lot further ahead

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          #44
          Originally posted by ESAU
          .. want the three judges to be from neutral countries?

          Or should we just let "the commission do their job"?

          Like when Spence fought Brook in UK at least two of the judges were from other countries outside England - one was even from USA (Adelaide Bird's racist ass).

          I mean, honestly, can you ever see an American travelling to Russia to fight a Russian, and there being all Russian officials (judges and ref)?

          Lol he'll even if the foreign fighter didn't say anything, the commission would be like "we gotta bring in neutral judges, and maybe even neutral ref."

          Why do people act like foreign fighters don't get robbed and jobbed (lol no pun intended) when fighting Americans on American soil?

          In fact, I bet I can name more foreign fighters getting robbed in USA, than vice versa... Try me
          Kovalev isn't travelling just to fight. He has been living and fighting in America for a while.

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            #45
            Originally posted by ESAU
            But did they have all three english judges? NOPE! And that wasn't a robbery.

            Valuev Holyfield - FAIL - took place in Switzerland the bloody most neutral country ever. But that was a Terri me decision. It was two foreign fighters, doe, and u could argue Switzerland and USA are closer culturally than Russia and Switzerland.


            With all the foreign fighters I've named getting robbed in America I'm still a lot further ahead

            If that's the criteria, then yea, you won...

            I just don't think many high profile American fighters will travel overseas, and agree to 3 judges from that country, FOR OBVIOUS REASONS...They are less likely to get a fair shake than vice-versa!

            You've given a few examples of it happening here, but I also gave a few examples or Americans being robbed in America against foreign fighters, which is exactly my point.

            As far as the Pacman-Bradley fight, that had nothing to do with Bradley being American. That was grandpa Rob behind that shady ****.

            Khan-Peterson had little to do with the judges, and more to do with the ref. That should be ruled an NC, anyway.

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              #46
              Originally posted by siablo14
              Kovalev isn't travelling just to fight. He has been living and fighting in America for a while.
              Doesn't matter for all intents and purposes he is a Russian fighter. He is perceived as such and perception is everything.

              Why wouldn't ward agree to bring in three neutral judges, though? If hebdidnt think it mattered?

              He knows he has an advantage just like last time in that he will get the benefit of the doubt for any close round.

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