Would it be fair for an American fighter fighting overseas to...

[Thraxox]

If Ward would have agreed with Kov's request for the commission to select three neutral judges the comish would have done so.

However, Ward literally said " LET THE comish do their job." Hahah just like Pac fans said about VADA drug testing. If both Pac and Floyd agree VADA would take over testing, but if one didn't, then the comish would use their typical protocol

That was USADA, not VADA back in the case of the 2010 negotiations. VADA wasn't invented untill 2011 and Pacquiao had done VADA more than a couple of times.

[Cheek busting]

I'm listening.

I didn't say us judges are great...in a close fight tho, foreign fighters are more likely to get a fair shake here.

In the us, popularity is more important than nationality. In other countries, the 2 go hand in hand. I don't see how that can be argued.

Amir Khan vs Lamont Peterson.

Khan by far the more popular fighter and the in-house favorite. Yet it was fought in Peterson's hometown and in USA. Khan got robbed something fierce. And the ref with the sketchy deductions. But even with those deductions Khan still easily won that fight.

Another case in point - Pac vs Bradley 1..

Lara vs Williams (although u could arguenwilliams was the more popular fighter but Lara was nonetheless a foreign fighter).

[Madison Boxing]

when its in america and its 3 american judges its fine. but if the tables get turned its not fine. despite bradley v pacuaio, ward v kovalev, williams v lara americas the only fair country and all the others are crooked, apparantly.

[NEETzsche]

To be fair, American boxing culture is a lot more welcoming to foreign fighters than other countries. You'll never see a non-Brit headlining in Britain or a non-Japanese headlining in Japan, but it's par for the course in the USA. Even on this website you see a lot more Americans rooting against their countrymen than other nationalities do

[FLY TY]

Amir Khan vs Lamont Peterson.

Khan by far the more popular fighter and the in-house favorite. Yet it was fought in Peterson's hometown and in USA. Khan got robbed something fierce. And the ref with the sketchy deductions. But even with those deductions Khan still easily won that fight.

Another case in point - Pac vs Bradley 1..

Lara vs Williams (although u could arguenwilliams was the more popular fighter but Lara was nonetheless a foreign fighter).

when its in america and its 3 american judges its fine. but if the tables get turned its not fine. despite bradley v pacuaio, ward v kovalev, williams v lara americas the only fair country and all the others are crooked, apparantly.

Khan lost the Peterson fight, buddy. I haven't heard anyone, except Khan cry robbery either. Wasn't that ruled a NC eventually?

I didn't see Williams-Lara....but I don't consider Lara a foreign fighter. He lives here, for goodness sakes! Isn't his nickname "The American
Dream?"

The Ward-KOVA fight was close...so close in fact, that even you dudes that like to throw out, "Kovalev won on 75% of boxing media scorecards," conveniently leave out the fact that a majority of those scores were within a round or 2 on points....let it go, it was a close fight.

As far as Pacquiao-Bradley, everyone knows manny won that damn fight, and nobody believes he got robbed because "Bradley is American," lol. Most people correctly assume that had more to do with shady ass grandpa Rob.

To be fair, American boxing culture is a lot more welcoming to foreign fighters than other countries. You'll never see a non-Brit headlining in Britain or a non-Japanese headlining in Japan, but it's par for the course in the USA. Even on this website you see a lot more Americans rooting against their countrymen than other nationalities do

You said what I meant exactly.

[Cheek busting]

Khan lost the Peterson fight, buddy. I haven't heard anyone, except Khan cry robbery either. Wasn't that ruled a NC eventually?

I didn't see Williams-Lara....but I don't consider Lara a foreign fighter. He lives here, for goodness sakes! Isn't his nickname "The American
Dream?"

The Ward-KOVA fight was close...so close in fact, that even you dudes that like to throw out, "Kovalev won on 75% of boxing media scorecards," conveniently leave out the fact that a majority of those scores were within a round or 2 on points....let it go, it was a close fight.

As far as Pacquiao-Bradley, everyone knows manny won that damn fight, and nobody believes he got robbed because "Bradley is American," lol. Most people correctly assume that had more to do with shady ass grandpa Rob.




You said what I meant exactly.

Khan got robbed. No, despite Peterson testing for roida it never was..

Let me go on. Felix Sturm robbed against Oscar. Kotelbik robbed again t Alexander. Mattthysse robbed against Alexander a d Judah.

Name me some American fighters robbed overseas...

Kovalev may live here but he is perceived and he'll even introduced as a Russian fighter!!! It is not fair to subject him to three American judges and ref when fighting an American IN America.

The fact that it was so close even further buttressed my point - when a round is close an American judge could subconsciously give it to the American fighter. Oh, and how convenient Ward got every single close round!!! LOL he even managed to win the 10th round on two scorecards!!! Hahahaha

It just doesn't make any sense. There's NO WAY an American would ever fight a Russian in Russia with three Russia. Judges and Russian ref. Point blank period. /discussion

[Johnny Steele]

I don't see how that can be argued.

That's because you have **** for brains.
Silly yank.

in a close fight tho, foreign fighters are more likely to get a fair shake here.

Oh look an American telling us how "fair" his country is hahaha.

In the us, popularity is more important than nationality. In other countries, the 2 go hand in hand. I don't see how that can be argued.

Since when was Bradley more popular than Pacquiao you liar.

[Johnny Steele]

Amir Khan vs Lamont Peterson.

Khan by far the more popular fighter and the in-house favorite. Yet it was fought in Peterson's hometown and in USA. Khan got robbed something fierce. And the ref with the sketchy deductions. But even with those deductions Khan still easily won that fight.

Another case in point - Pac vs Bradley 1..

Lara vs Williams (although u could arguenwilliams was the more popular fighter but Lara was nonetheless a foreign fighter).

Not a bad post.

You're point about the khan/peterson fight reminded me that
Americans are allowed to openly use peds against foreign
fighters.

[FLY TY]

That's because you have **** for brains.
Silly yank.



Oh look an American telling us how "fair" his country is hahaha.



Since when was Bradley more popular than Pacquiao you liar.

I also said that decision probably had more to do with Arum than anything else....since he promoted BOTH, dummy.

[Johnny Steele]

Khan lost the Peterson fight, buddy. I haven't heard anyone, except Khan cry robbery either. Wasn't that ruled a NC eventually?

No.
The American got away with using steroids.
And having some shady scumbag tamper with the scorecards.

"america fair shake doe"

I also said that decision probably had more to do with Arum than anything else....since he promoted BOTH, dummy.

What the f.uck are you babbling about???