Nah, Floyd just makes great fighters look like cherries!
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You seem very sure that's what happened. If I provided facts that contradicted this belief, you'd either ignore it or claim it wasn't honest.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I normally do ignore it because yeah it is dishonest. Your "facts" read like excuses that clear Floyd of any wrongdoing every time. No I am cool on that. I'll stick to what I have gathered on the subject.
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostThe cherry-picking and ducking started early in his career. He found a way to avoid southpaw Stevie Johnston, prime Mosley, Freitas, and Casamayor. He often used opponents losses and claims of poor opposition to avoid them, yet had no problem fighting Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir and then fighting Baldomir with his 9 losses.
He "retired" so he wouldn't have to rematch DLH, and he had prime Pac, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito and Paul Williams waiting for him. He wanted no part of them and chose to "retire" and let them soften one another up until it was safe to come back against a much smaller urine-guzzling Marquez. Came up two weight classes and Floyd never bothered to make the weight for a catch weight he demanded (now contrast the criticism GGG receives for fighting a large WW who came up two weight classes--hypocrisy much?).
He waited out Cotto, Mosley and Pac until they were past their prime and certainly not their best. He turned down challenges from Martinez and GGG who offered to come down to 154 to fight him. He called out Winky Wright, and when Winky called his bluff, Floyd ran the other way. He openly admits now that he "marinated" the fight with Pac, which is Floyd-speak for ducking and waiting for him to lose a step.
No other fighter has ducked this many prime opponents in their career and managed to be this successful.
That the same rabies induced rambling they use.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostOutrageous demands-they both were going to take drug testing how is that outrageous?
Lidocaine is legal in Nevada. He had a retroactive TUE for the IV. you ignore this and get mad if any Floyd fan points this out.
LMFAO! Yeah, that's all he asked for.
Manny lied because Shane had a toothache. WTF?? You are just getting crazier with each post.
He fought with one arm for 8 rounds implies he got hurt in the 4th round. Funny but he never showed any signs of the injury until the press conference after Koncz whispered in his ear. He must have forgot to tell Max he was hurt in the post fight interview.
Manny pressed on with the fight because he knew if he asked for a postponement or to reschedule it would never happen. And then Floyd would have the convenient excuse that he made the fight but Manny chickened out. Instead, he bravely fought on with one arm.
Make no mistake, if Manny ever used an illegal IV (or GGG, Loma, Kovalev) you Floyd fans would all be screaming bloody murder. Hell, it took less than that for all of you to jump on the bandwagon and regurgitate Floyd's PED accusations when Floyd was the only one making that accusation. All because Manny was too good for him back then.
Like the title of the thread says, he was/is the biggest cherry-picker of all time. Tune in to McGregor/Mayweather if you don't believe me.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostInteresting post.
Baldomir defeated Zab, the lineal champ, who Floyd already had a fight signed with. so Floyd fought both guys. You criticize him for it. Manny had a deal to fight Morales, Morales loses to Raheem, Manny fights Morales but not Raheem and you celebrate this as a win over an ATG.
Shane, manny and Cotto refuse the fight and you balme Floyd for cherrypicking.
Wow.
Shane, Manny, and Cotto..Floyd was on vacation while those guys were grinding, then resurfaced and cherrypicked the right time to fight those guys, in the case of Pac, he said it. You can't get no more official than that, and no, i don't buy that all these guys refused to fight Floyd, and please spare me the excuses, er I mean facts.
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostManny didn't try to damage Floyd's reputation with false accusations or any other attacks on his character. Floyd used that as his way out, trying to dictate terms back when they were on equal footing. There was no a-side/b-side nonsense back then.
Manny pressed on with the fight because he knew if he asked for a postponement or to reschedule it would never happen. And then Floyd would have the convenient excuse that he made the fight but Manny chickened out. Instead, he bravely fought on with one arm.
Make no mistake, if Manny ever used an illegal IV (or GGG, Loma, Kovalev) you Floyd fans would all be screaming bloody murder. Hell, it took less than that for all of you to jump on the bandwagon and regurgitate Floyd's PED accusations when Floyd was the only one making that accusation. All because Manny was too good for him back then.
Like the title of the thread says, he was/is the biggest cherry-picker of all time. Tune in to McGregor/Mayweather if you don't believe me.
HAHA the same dude who got stitches in his head he didn't need, from his promoter's future son in law, for a cut that neither his personal physician, the ringside dr, or the dr that examined him after the fight felt he needed, to avoid fighting Floyd before he went to jail.
Manny fought cowardly except for flurries in rd 4 and 9 after he ate the right hands in round 1.
If Manny was too good for him he would have agreed to testing and to fight. Period.
I am not going to order Floyd/Conor. It's going to be just like Floyd/Manny.
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Originally posted by djtmal View PostKeep it 100. Floyd turned down Margarito to fight Baldymir, the worst lineal ww in history, the lessor of the two fighters imo. I didn't criticize him for fighting Zab even though Zab took an L against Baldymir, I knew Zab was up and down, but Zab is official, and more than likely would show up for Floyd.
Shane, Manny, and Cotto..Floyd was on vacation while those guys were grinding, then resurfaced and cherrypicked the right time to fight those guys, in the case of Pac, he said it. You can't get no more official than that, and no, i don't buy that all these guys refused to fight Floyd, and please spare me the excuses, er I mean facts.
Margarito had NOTHING Floyd wanted.
Baldomir was UNIFIED WW champ
Tony just had a WBO crap-strap...nobody wants that thing.
Brian Kenney said Floyd would surely duck Baldomir.
The fighters Floyd is accused of ducking were ALL with Bob Arum.
THAT is keeping it real
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostAttacked his character? He asked that they BOTH take tests, not just Manny. No they were not on equal footing.
HAHA the same dude who got stitches in his head he didn't need, from his promoter's future son in law, for a cut that neither his personal physician, the ringside dr, or the dr that examined him after the fight felt he needed, to avoid fighting Floyd before he went to jail.
Manny fought cowardly except for flurries in rd 4 and 9 after he ate the right hands in round 1.
If Manny was too good for him he would have agreed to testing and to fight. Period.
I am not going to order Floyd/Conor. It's going to be just like Floyd/Manny.
No kidding you aren't paying for that fight, or any other. You're the guy who looks for a bar and probably watches it for free from outside the window.
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