Is Keith Thurman on steroids?

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  • rickJen
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    #21
    Originally posted by Gigantes
    lol bundu, collazo, diaz, and guerrero are considered a step up? from that list only possible step up is guerrero, and that's a big if
    You're very confusing. You said the KO's have stopped since Karass.
    Does that mean he stopped juicing since? That's a lot of fighters without peds. In which case this thread is pointless.

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      #22
      Originally posted by genrick
      You're very confusing. You said the KO's have stopped since Karass.
      Does that mean he stopped juicing since? That's a lot of fighters without peds. In which case this thread is pointless.
      Yea I'm asking if he was on stuff in the past and then stopped juicing.

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        #23
        When you move up through the levels of boxing, the game changes! At elite level ether fighters have greater punch resistance or they just don't get caught with big shots often enough! Joe Calzaghe before he fought Chris Eubank Senior was being herald as a big puncher, he was blasting guys out early! (But obviously that all changed when he fought Chris Eubank Senior!).

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          #24
          Originally posted by Gigantes
          Yea I'm asking if he was on stuff in the past and then stopped juicing.
          So he's no longer on steroids. I see.
          Maybe you're right. Fact that he now fights once in a year.

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            #25
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            When you move up through the levels of boxing, the game changes! At elite level ether fighters have greater punch resistance or they just don't get caught with big shots often enough! Joe Calzaghe before he fought Chris Eubank Senior was being herald as a big puncher, he was blasting guys out early! (But obviously that all changed when he fought Chris Eubank Senior!).
            I understand that, but shouldn't the knockouts have stopped at Porter and Garcia? It stopped after Karass? After Karass there weren't really any drastic change in opposition.

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              #26
              Originally posted by genrick
              So he's no longer on steroids. I see.
              Maybe you're right. Fact that he now fights once in a year.
              Plus given the fact that he hasn't tested VADA (unless he has and I don't know of it, along with others who aren't answering it)

              But yea the question was if he was taking it in the past.

              Again, he probably wasn't, but the facts that are here doesn't hurt to bring it up and see what other's think too

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                #27
                Originally posted by Gigantes
                I understand that, but shouldn't the knockouts have stopped at Porter and Garcia? It stopped after Karass? After Karass there weren't really any drastic change in opposition.
                His power could of just been overrated, i don't think there are any big punchers at 147! There are good punchers like Thurman, Garcia, Pacman but no monsters! Also you also have the factor in that has evolved as a fighter, i never really use to class Thurman as a gifted boxer technically! Just somebody who was athletically gifted with speed and athleticism (That just so happened to learn the fundamentals of boxing!) But up against Garcia and even Porter he has shown that he can really box!

                I don't think he was ever on steroids, if he was? Other markers such of decreased endurance, and punch resistance would make things more evident!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  His power could of just been overrated, i don't think there are any big punchers at 147! There are good punchers like Thurman, Garcia, Pacman but no monsters! Also you also have the factor in that has evolved as a fighter, i never really use to class Thurman as a gifted boxer technically! Just somebody who was athletically gifted with speed and athleticism (That just so happened to learn the fundamentals of boxing!) But up against Garcia and even Porter he has shown that he can really box!

                  I don't think he was ever on steroids, if he was? Other markers such of decreased endurance, and punch resistance would make things more evident!
                  nicely said

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RussTBE
                    I think he could have knocked danny out if he was more aggressive. He seriously just got on his bike after a lead and pot shotted him. If hekept going after him like he did in the first couple rounds he might have stopped him.
                    LOL @ Kovalev walking away from Ward while talking ****.

                    Didn't say **** when he was in his face.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                      When you move up through the levels of boxing, the game changes! At elite level ether fighters have greater punch resistance or they just don't get caught with big shots often enough! Joe Calzaghe before he fought Chris Eubank Senior was being herald as a big puncher, he was blasting guys out early! (But obviously that all changed when he fought Chris Eubank Senior!).


                      That is a straight up lie

                      Show me ONE fight when Slappy Joe was "blasting guys out early"

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