Vitali was always the better of the two

[dan_cov]

Sanders, Peter, JC Gomez, Arreola? Maybe Danny Williams? lol honestly his resume is awful.

I like Vitali but fans need to keep it real his resume sucks and ahead or not he lost both times he stepped up.

Wladimir achieved far more fought all the best fighters over 3 era's. His resume is 10 times better than Vitali's and that's what truly matters.
That's how good of a fighter you truly are should be judged not by guess work and wishful thinking.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Another thing we must consider is that Emmanuel Stewart, refined and tamed Wladimir Kiltschko! Just like he did with Lennox Lewis! (But he had more of a task to improve Wladimir Kiltschko, in comparison to Lennox Lewis who was already a immense fighter when he joined him! Kiltschko in his wild and untamed days, used to throw body shots and quite a lot of combinations! But his style left him open to be hit more often. In his fight up against Anthony Joshua, if he would of reverted back to his untamed style when he had Joshua hurt? He would of won the fight! Vitali Kiltschko was a untamed fighter, he was uncivilized inside of the ring! and it trait this overall which made him a more dangerous and brutal fighter than Wladimir Kiltschko! he never lost that instinct!

[JJRod]

I remeber hearing that during sparring sessions Wladimir always got the best of Vitali. Or so the rumors went.
As for who was better, their old trainer said:
"Vitali is made of stone and Wladimir is made of clay. When I taught Vitali something new, it would take a while for him to perfect the move. Carving stone takes time. Wladimir was easier to mold, but he would weather more quickly. They are two distinct fighters and needed different approaches."

You can draw conclusions from that.

[juggernaut666]

Yes, losing effort that's exactly what it was. Doesn't matter who was ahead at the time its a 12 round fight.
He was injured vs Lewis too right? Lol. he lost and if we're totally honest this supposed tough brother quit vs Byrd, I've never seen Wladimir quit - The brother who supposedly lacks heart.

Like who? His best wins are probably Sanders and a very old JC Gomez who was a far better CW than he was HW - Far from his peak. Peter who little bro had already decisively beaten.

He was a decent HW but plagued with injuries and fought the weak links whilst Wladimir fought the killers and cleaned up. The two times he stepped up he got stopped. He lost to the two best fighters he shared a ring with, his resume is very thin therefore claiming he's this head-to-head great and all this that fans do is nothing but a baseless opinion.

"These guys are workaholics, number one. The guy that is going to beat them is going to have to be somewhat of a machine because these guys work hard. They are like a consistent heartbeat; boom-boom, boom-boom. Nothing ever changes. If they say at 8 in the morning, they are there at 8. If they say 5 in the afternoon, they are there at 5. If they say they are gonna do 12 rounds, they gonna do 12 rounds. If they say they gonna do 5, they gonna do 5. These guys are the consummate professionals.

They don't play and the people that are going to beat them...it's going to take more than skills; it's going to take a mentality to beat them. You gotta prepare to deal with a mentality, not just a fighting style. When preparing a fighter, I don't prepare a fighter just to fight a style. I prepare them to fight the mindset of that corner. I look at who is training the fighter and prepare them to not only fight a boxing style, but the mentality of the corner. If you're going against a Freddie Roach, an Emanuel Steward, or a Dundee, if you're going against any of the top guys out there, you gotta prepare your fighter to fight the mentality of the corner.

My thinking is, what would the corner do? Those are the pros and cons of winning and losing and I believe it makes the difference in winning and losing. Those are the little adjustments that you have to make. That's the thing with the Klitschkos; it's going to take more than just a guy to come into a fight against them in shape to beat them. These guys are doctors. " A.BASHIR



Yes Wlad had the better resume but would it really matter who fought who? You also have to look at who Vitali has beaten or handled easier than Wlad . Vitali two losses were injuries that still doesn't erase Vitali can adapt better to pressure fighters which makes him more suitable for more variety of fighters and they both handled outside boxers equally well for the most part.

Vitalis arm punching/lean away style let him use far less energy and his low hand positioning never let him worry about fatigue either bc that takes less energy to do than keep your hands up .

They both dispatch the same guys really ,under Steward Wlad was very hard to deal with but at times even Steward had to plea with Wlad to give 100% in the corner this is why i take Vitali ,had they fought h2h Wlad would need Steward and a Joshua performance to win ,we never saw that Wlad ! As ive stated for decades with the Klitchkos IF you get a high caliber opposition you would see how good these guys actually were ....

Wlad vs Vitali would have been a war ,just listen to how they described their sparring sessions ,most thought the Joshua fight would be boring too ,they dont see the obvious sometimes .

[ussy]

Vitali is a genuine ATG could have been great in any era. Wladimir is very good but became great in a weak era. Both still true champs though.

[dan_cov]

Wladimir also beat fighters in better fashion than Vitali and I completely disagree about Vitali handling pressure fighters better he looked terrible vs Charr and practically went life and death with Derek Chisora. If we're honest here neither land a glove on Wladimir even the 41yr old Wladimir of today.

Vitali is not an ATG.

[MikeRo1972]

Between the bros Vitali was always the better fighter if you compare him to Wlad.

Its too bad that his injuries and previous kickboxing career robbed him of his prime years.

Agreed, Vitali is Vlad with some dog in him, a mean streak.

[dan_cov]

Didn't Wladimir simultaneously hold 3 of the four world titles and The Ring. He fought and beat Chris Byrd, David Haye and was it Povetkin for those titles? 3 fighters all better than anybody Vitali beat.
Did Vitali ever hold more than 1 title at a time and who did he beat for those? Herbie Hide and a past prime Peter? Who Wladimir had beaten years earlier at his peak. Peter who was then given all he could handle by an obese, shot James Toney

Wladimirs best wins; Povetkin, Haye, Peter, Byrd, Brock, Thompson x2, Pulev, Brewster, Rahman, Ibragimov, Chambers, Chagaev

Vitali's; Sanders, Peter, Arreola, Williams, JC Gomez, Chisora

Wladimir is an ATG, Vitali isn't close imo
Vitali was never the best of any era he fought in. Wladimir was for a decade.

[!! Shawn]

Didn't Wladimir simultaneously hold 3 of the four world titles and The Ring. He fought and beat Chris Byrd, David Haye and was it Povetkin for those titles? 3 fighters all better than anybody Vitali beat.
Did Vitali ever hold more than 1 title at a time and who did he beat for those? Herbie Hide and a past prime Peter? Who Wladimir had beaten years earlier at his peak. Peter who was then given all he could handle by an obese, shot James Toney

Wladimirs best wins; Povetkin, Haye, Peter, Byrd, Brock, Thompson x2, Pulev, Brewster, Rahman, Ibragimov, Chambers, Chagaev

Vitali's; Sanders, Peter, Arreola, Williams, JC Gomez, Chisora

Wladimir is an ATG, Vitali isn't close imo
Vitali was never the best of any era he fought in. Wladimir was for a decade.

To be fair, to Vitali, when he held his belt, his brother had the other 3, and they were clearly never going to fight each other, and he won his belt by putting away the guy that just flattened his brother. And the first time around, Lennox Lewis was the man, and Vitali wasn't getting a shot at him.

Vitali also beat every fighter that his brother lost too, by KO.

Id say that Vitali was the much more naturally gifted fighter, while Wlad was more physically gifted (outside of the chin thing). By that I mean that Vitali just had better natural fighting instincts.

It would have been interesting to see what Vitali would have become if he had someone like Emanuel Steward to clean him up.

He was always rough around the edges, and unorthodox, but lets not forget he is about 2 inches taller than Wlad, Has remarkable mobility in the ring, and a very very high work rate for a heavyweight.

I think Vitali could have probably gone through Wlad's resume undefeated barring injuries such as the one suffered in the Byrd fight.

So yeah, Vitali's resume isn't the strongest of all time, but there are extenuating circumstances.

[Simurgh]

IMO Wlad is ATG, and Vitali is HOF.

Not saying that Vitali wouldn't beat Wlad in H2H.