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Would Ali be the best HW in today's era?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by el*** View Post
    Yeah you have to consider if he would still be 210 in todays world with all the gear and chit they are on nowdays. ali was naturally bigger than haye, way more skilled and haye was able to jump up to 220's, a higher weight than ali, and make a lot of noise in the division.

    at 6-3 and with a large reach, ali could be 220-230 in todays world without much speed impact
    no he wasn't

    Ali was fleshy 14-16% bodyfat at 212

    Haye is ripped to the bone 8% at that weight, if he came chugging into the ring at 15% bodyfat like ali he'd be over 230lbs

    Ali would be a cruiserweight today and he'd have no chance vs the super heavies

    Remember when ali fought the massive "big" george foreman

    that monsterous 218lb of a man who would be a midget by todays standards
    Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 06-04-2017, 08:30 AM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post
      no he wasn't

      Ali was fleshy 14-16% bodyfat at 212

      Haye is ripped to the bone 8% at that weight, if he came chugging into the ring at 15% bodyfat like ali he'd be over 230lbs

      Ali would be a cruiserweight today and he'd have no chance vs the super heavies

      Remember when ali fought the massive "big" george foreman

      that monsterous 218lb of a man who would be a midget by todays standards
      If Haye trained like Ali he probably never hits 200lbs. He's naturally a slim guy who has pumped himself with heavy weights.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
        If Haye trained like Ali he probably never hits 200lbs. He's naturally a slim guy who has pumped himself with heavy weights.
        [IMG]http://www.***********.com/boxing_images2/Haye1.jpg[/IMG]

        Haye at 200lbs

        notice ripped to the bone and dry

        The only real muscle mass on him is his biceps

        other than that not carrying a huge amount of muscle mass, just <7% bodyfat

        a bulky meathead he is not

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        • #34
          He wud be in the mix for sure but I still rate prime era Tyson higher

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          • #35
            I no Alitard but this question is a total disrespect for Ali. Today's HWs are by far the worst.
            Bums absolute no skills
            Straight outta steroid GYMs
            Once again we have stars
            But vs Ali, theyr all 'no mas'.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Rovi View Post
              I no Alitard but this question is a total disrespect for Ali. Today's HWs are by far the worst.
              Bums absolute no skills
              Straight outta steroid GYMs
              Once again we have stars
              But vs Ali, theyr all 'no mas'.
              they said that about the 90's too

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post
                they said that about the 90's too
                So if they said it about the 90's and the heavyweights are worse today it still applies.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Vegemil View Post
                  So if they said it about the 90's and the heavyweights are worse today it still applies.
                  what it means is people glorify the past and dont appreciate what they have in front of them

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey View Post
                    what it means is people glorify the past and dont appreciate what they have in front of them
                    You gotta admit the heavyweights today are lacking something. Every champion that we have has a different flaw. AJ is still young but fights like a robot and can't love his head. Wilder has power but his technique lies behind his right hand and (If the Nelson stories are correct) has a chin problem. Joseph Parker is a Burger King boy.

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                    • #40
                      LOL at how fans glorify the past fights and fighters . IF you switched some of the best fights of 70's and particularly the 60's and replaced them today ,you guys would be crying BUMS ! How did we get so ****** as fans in general ?

                      And NO Ali doesnt get away with mosr tactics he did THEN , he will get hit more and harder (HE WASNT ACTUALLY HARD TO HIT IF YOU WATCH FULL LENGTH FIGHTS , I KNOW PPL DONT ) and im POSITITIVE most DONT know why!
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-04-2017, 09:38 AM.

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