Comments Thread For: Spence-Brook Peaked at 337K Viewers; Averaged 291K on Showtime

[killakali]

you idiot hudreds of thousands of people watched it on fire sticks, streams and on youtube...... And facebook.... You are ******ed

That's what happens on every fight u *****. Any and every fight has that. That's why we go by ratings. And it's proof that no cares about Spence u al Haymon lady boy. Brook fought GGG at the same time and had 3x greater audience than Brooke's Spence. Stop sucking thst dizick

[killakali]

you sound like you are getting sodomized by ****** boy promotions hahahah..... Lube up puta

U always require NsB to lube up every since Haymon blew your ass out the first time lmoooooo

[bigdunny1]

It's shocking that spence in the last 3 years (last 10 pro fights) has fought just ONCE in the state of Texas. And only 4 of his total 22 pro fights have been in texas ONLY one of those were even in Dallas. SMH

http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/6...top-rank-radio

Should Errol Spence Jr. sign with Golden Boy Promotions or Top Rank?

Written by Joseph Herron
Friday, 02 June 2017

Before newly crowned IBF Welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. put forth an impressive knock-out performance over former titlist Kell Brook in Sheffield, England, Hall of Fame fighter and ambitious promoter Oscar De la Hoya spoke highly of the Texas based pugilist, and showed a genuine interest in working with the 27 year old puncher.

"I love Spence...he reminds me of young Sugar Ray Leonard," boxing's Golden Boy recently told FightHub TV. "I love his energy, his persona...I love who he is and how he carries himself. I would love to promote him. He currently has no promoter...I would love to get my hands on him and promote his career. He could become a big, big star with the right team behind him."

Despite becoming a legitimate world champion and putting forth a superb, star-making performance on May 27, very few outside of the die-hard boxing community are aware of the special talent that is Errol Spence Jr.

According to numbers recently released, Showtime's live matinee broadcast of "Brook vs. Spence" on May 27 only peaked at 337,000 households and averaged an unimpressive audience of 291,000 homes.

Why?

He's a former U.S. Olympian and now an undefeated world titlist, who could very well prove to be the best American fighter in professional boxing.

On Wednesday night's edition of FightSaga Radio, three-decade fight trainer and experienced boxing manager James Gogue provided some insight into Spence's curious situation.

"He should have signed with a top promoter as soon as he turned pro," claims the knowledgeable boxing manager/trainer. "Instead he signed a contract with Al Haymon, who doesn't like to make deals with promotional companies because he acts as the promoter."

"But Al is no damn promoter. He'll get you fights because he has or had plenty of TV dates, but he doesn't understand how to cultivate a fighter's brand and turn his clients into hot ticket sellers."

According to Gogue, Errol should have decided to work with a promotional group who has a proven track record of cultivating the biggest stars of the sport. When examining the career's of boxing's most prolific and well-known fighters over the last 30 years, one company truly has separated themselves from the promotional pack within the U.S. market.

"Errol should have signed with Top Rank, who I think is the best promoter here in the states," Gogue stated on this week's edition of FightSaga Radio. "They are the second best promoter in the world right now behind Eddie Hearn and Matchroom Sports. They understand the principles of nurturing a fighter's career, making them big ticket sellers and expanding their popularity. "

"Look what they're currently doing with Jose Ramirez in Fresno and Terence Crawford in Omaha. They've done a masterful job in developing their fan base."

It's often said that home is where the heart is...the age old adage also applies to the business of boxing. The thirty-five year fight trainer insists that a strong effort in and around the Dallas/Ft. Worth area while competing at the 4, 6 and 8 round stages would have paid dividends in creating a much bigger and energized fanbase for the young Texas based champion.


"Haymon should have been featuring this kid in home area of Dallas, Texas, as a headlining attraction on a consistent basis...it's only the fourth largest city in the USA. It's crazy! You can't build a fan base fighting in Toronto, Canada, Indio, CA, then Long Island, New York, when you've spent your entire life training and living in the DFW area and expect your hometown fans to care or even know who you are."

"There's a reason why the Dallas Cowboys play eight home games every year at Cowboys Stadium. That's where the great majority of their fans are. To the best of my knowledge, Errol has only been featured in Dallas one time since turning pro. If you expect this kid to eventually become a major draw in boxing, you have to get the mainstream press and the casual sports fans interested and involved. That happens when presented to an audience at home."

"But you can't blame Spence...he's just the fighter. You have to blame the person or group making the decisions in his career, which right now is Al Haymon."

Will Haymon and company finally start featuring Errol Spence Jr. as a headliner in the fourth largest metropolitan area in America, or will the new IBF champ be forced to look elsewhere for career guidance?

[DinoCop]

Does that mean it was watched on 290k houses? or watched by approximately 290k people (depending on that each family is consisted of 4 persons)

[Porter's Dad]

I am not sure why people are gloating about this low number. This was a great, highly-anticipated fight and these numbers are not a good look for the sport.

[MasterPlan]

It's shocking that spence in the last 3 years (last 10 pro fights) has fought just ONCE in the state of Texas. And only 4 of his total 22 pro fights have been in texas ONLY one of those were even in Dallas. SMH

http://www.fightsaga.com/news/item/6...top-rank-radio

Should Errol Spence Jr. sign with Golden Boy Promotions or Top Rank?

Written by Joseph Herron
Friday, 02 June 2017

Before newly crowned IBF Welterweight champion Errol Spence Jr. put forth an impressive knock-out performance over former titlist Kell Brook in Sheffield, England, Hall of Fame fighter and ambitious promoter Oscar De la Hoya spoke highly of the Texas based pugilist, and showed a genuine interest in working with the 27 year old puncher.

"I love Spence...he reminds me of young Sugar Ray Leonard," boxing's Golden Boy recently told FightHub TV. "I love his energy, his persona...I love who he is and how he carries himself. I would love to promote him. He currently has no promoter...I would love to get my hands on him and promote his career. He could become a big, big star with the right team behind him."

Despite becoming a legitimate world champion and putting forth a superb, star-making performance on May 27, very few outside of the die-hard boxing community are aware of the special talent that is Errol Spence Jr.

According to numbers recently released, Showtime's live matinee broadcast of "Brook vs. Spence" on May 27 only peaked at 337,000 households and averaged an unimpressive audience of 291,000 homes.

Why?

He's a former U.S. Olympian and now an undefeated world titlist, who could very well prove to be the best American fighter in professional boxing.

On Wednesday night's edition of FightSaga Radio, three-decade fight trainer and experienced boxing manager James Gogue provided some insight into Spence's curious situation.

"He should have signed with a top promoter as soon as he turned pro," claims the knowledgeable boxing manager/trainer. "Instead he signed a contract with Al Haymon, who doesn't like to make deals with promotional companies because he acts as the promoter."

"But Al is no damn promoter. He'll get you fights because he has or had plenty of TV dates, but he doesn't understand how to cultivate a fighter's brand and turn his clients into hot ticket sellers."

According to Gogue, Errol should have decided to work with a promotional group who has a proven track record of cultivating the biggest stars of the sport. When examining the career's of boxing's most prolific and well-known fighters over the last 30 years, one company truly has separated themselves from the promotional pack within the U.S. market.

"Errol should have signed with Top Rank, who I think is the best promoter here in the states," Gogue stated on this week's edition of FightSaga Radio. "They are the second best promoter in the world right now behind Eddie Hearn and Matchroom Sports. They understand the principles of nurturing a fighter's career, making them big ticket sellers and expanding their popularity. "

"Look what they're currently doing with Jose Ramirez in Fresno and Terence Crawford in Omaha. They've done a masterful job in developing their fan base."

It's often said that home is where the heart is...the age old adage also applies to the business of boxing. The thirty-five year fight trainer insists that a strong effort in and around the Dallas/Ft. Worth area while competing at the 4, 6 and 8 round stages would have paid dividends in creating a much bigger and energized fanbase for the young Texas based champion.


"Haymon should have been featuring this kid in home area of Dallas, Texas, as a headlining attraction on a consistent basis...it's only the fourth largest city in the USA. It's crazy! You can't build a fan base fighting in Toronto, Canada, Indio, CA, then Long Island, New York, when you've spent your entire life training and living in the DFW area and expect your hometown fans to care or even know who you are."

"There's a reason why the Dallas Cowboys play eight home games every year at Cowboys Stadium. That's where the great majority of their fans are. To the best of my knowledge, Errol has only been featured in Dallas one time since turning pro. If you expect this kid to eventually become a major draw in boxing, you have to get the mainstream press and the casual sports fans interested and involved. That happens when presented to an audience at home."

"But you can't blame Spence...he's just the fighter. You have to blame the person or group making the decisions in his career, which right now is Al Haymon."

Will Haymon and company finally start featuring Errol Spence Jr. as a headliner in the fourth largest metropolitan area in America, or will the new IBF champ be forced to look elsewhere for career guidance?

Spence has only headlined 2 cards. And just one as the A-Side.

His next fight will likely be in TX unless it's a Thurman or Garcia than that will be in Brooklyn or Vegas.

[bigdunny1]

Spence has only headlined 2 cards. And just one as the A-Side.

His next fight will likely be in TX unless it's a Thurman or Garcia than that will be in Brooklyn or Vegas.

If Spence was signed to a major promoter they would of made sure he has fought in Dallas more then once his entire career and more then 4 times in the state of texas. Just once in his last 10 fights. This is one of the negatives of being with haymon. He has the TV dates but there seems to be no rhyme or reason to them. He should of been fighting in Texas and the westcoast the majority of his career on the way up to build a home fanbase. Whether that is on undercards or smaller headlines the promoter figures that out. I get going to the UK he had to for the title shot but no excuse for little to no fights in his home state. Especially since haymon had so many PBC Networks and dates. A major promoter would of made it a priority instead they got a Texas kid fighting in NY, Canada and everywhere but texas. Lmao

[MasterPlan]

If Spence was signed to a major promoter they would of made sure he has fought in Dallas more then once his entire career and more then 4 times in the state of texas. Just once in his last 10 fights. This is one of the negatives of being with haymon. He has the TV dates but there seems to be no rhyme or reason to them. He should of been fighting in Texas and the westcoast the majority of his career on the way up to build a home fanbase. Whethet that is on undercards or smaller headlines the promoter figures that out. I get going to the UK he had to for the title shot but no excuse for little to no fights in his home state. Especially since haymon had so many PBC Networks and dates. A major promoter would of made it a priority instead they got a Texas kid fighting in NY, Canada and everywhere but texas. Lmao

He fought in Tx on a Charlo card in 2015. But for the most part not a lot of cards in TX besides at the smaller venues.

Is Spence a big enough name now to headline at a decent size arena in the Dallas area?

How about a triple Spence-Charlo Bros card in Dallas or Houston?

[bigdunny1]

He fought in Tx on a Charlo card in 2015. But for the most part not a lot of cards in TX besides at the smaller venues.

Is Spence a big enough name now to headline at a decent size arena in the Dallas area?

How about a triple Spence-Charlo Bros card in Dallas or Houston?

Broner fought 10 of his first 20 pro fights all in Cincinnati. I dont think cincy is a better fight town or easier to find venues then texas. But broner was signed and built under golden boy. Haymon hasn't built any stars he's inherited guys who were already built up by other promoters. With all the connections haymon has his inexperience in building up fighters is why Spence hasn't fought in texas. Better late then never his next fight needs to be in texas. Pairing him with the charlos sounds great to me.

[kej718]

in the uk this fight was ppv... Eddie hearn said he expects to sell 300 to 400 k ppv's.... Spence vs brook isnt a big enough fight for cbs.... Now thurman vs spence that might be on cbs or nbc or fox

Spence's last fight did 6 million views, but I guess they were afraid they might end up competing with the NBA playoffs. Those PPV numbers are not bad.