Comments Thread For: Nelson Claims Klitschko Knocked Out Wilder 'Twice' in Sparring

[stevepeeve]

Joshua seems to be the real deal with talent and brain & power

Joshua seems to be a complete package of power brains and talent. Wilder has a right hand little brains or boxing acumen or intellect. Unless Wilder connects on a wild right hand which is possible then look for a Joshua win even a stoppage over a bewildered confused Wilder..

[petero]

Johnny Nelson maybe grossly exaggerating the facts : firstly how do you KO a sparring partner TWICE-THREE TIMES COLD in a camp? don't you send them home? or see they get treated for their concussion -- I mean that is standard practice and Klitschko knocking out anyone with a body shot?! are you mad?

In a Ring Interview Wladimir has said Deontay Wilder is one of the greatest sparring partners he ever had, furthermore according to Deontay he became the lead sparring partner and all the other HW that came into the camp for Wach did not get to spar Wladimir for the good work Deontay gave him.

Elie, hopefully you now know why Al Haymon won't get Wilder a credible opponent EVER. He is in business for profit, BUM SQUAD!

[KING5TWENTY]

Lmao I call bull****. I don't think anyone believes him.

[1hourRun]

Elie, hopefully you now know why Al Haymon won't get Wilder a credible opponent EVER. He is in business for profit, BUM SQUAD!

Johny Nelson was on crack during this show on Sky, he suggested that Anthony Joshua should fight Pedvetkin or Parker! we know why he made no mention of Deontay Wilder ; hes a troll.

[kushking]

Was this before or after Audley Harrison beat wilder up so bad in sparring that he ran off and was found in an alley drunk off whiskey???? Lol. These guys go all out with the bs to discredit wilder. Wanna show me he's hype??? Put aj in there with him to prove he's hype. Put David price in there with him. Put Haye in there with him. Let him give bellew a title shot. Let Ortiz old drug cheat a$$ pass a test. Then I'll believe he's hype. He's on record calling out everybody. Nobody is calling him out who isn't looking for a payday(bellew, mansour, Ortiz). Wilder has been after aj and fury for years. It's them who keep ducking him.

Exactly,
Joshua when asked to fight fury:
When asked about vlad:
When asked about wilder:

[OSCARINA]

david price put aj to sleep.

I'd rather tell people i was stopped by vlad than david price..

Surely this doesn't take away the sting of what spence did to your boy....

to ****** british fan boys david price is the british muhammad ali lmfaooooooo

[OSCARINA]

David Price put AJ to sleep.

I'd rather tell people I was stopped by Vlad than David Price..

Surely this doesn't take away the sting of what Spence did to your boy....

also johny nelson is a known liar who dies the dirty work for eddie hearn and sky sports...... he is the black max kellerman of england lol

[Boxing Truth]

Facts

People also don't understand, they think Wilder is a big heavyweight like these other giants, because of his height. And then you look at his athleticism and power and think damn, not even AJ or Klitschko have that combination.

But in reality, AJ, Fry, and Klitschko all fight between 240 and 250 pounds. Wilder is 225! It's a huge difference. So yeah Wilder seems a little twitchier because he's so much lighter! Pack on 25 pounds of muscle like AJ and Klitschko and he wouldn't look like that.

And in other words, Wilder's power may look devastating against other guys 200 to 230 lbs, or the odd untested, inexperienced guy like Gerald Washington who does weigh more, but against guys who weigh 25 pounds heavier than him, and are at the top of the division, with better defense, better chins, and who are better at rolling off punches, Wilder is not going to one-punch these guys out the ring anyway even if his chin does last a few rounds. People have it in their mind that maybe Wilder can avoid getting caught clean for a few rounds, and all he needs is one shot himself to knock those guys out. Nah man. I mean sure anyone can get a one punch KO if it lands perfect, but you saw both AJ and Klitschko took each other's best shots and got through it multiple times. AJ took the best shots of a 240 pound man, Klitschko took the best shots of a 250 pound man who also happens to be an elite puncher. Wilder is not taking either of those guys punches being outweighed by 15 to 25 pounds in the ring. The only reason Joshua took that right hand and made it through the fight was because of his 10 pound weight advantage and monster neck. If he came in at 225 that shot would have stopped him for sure.

So it's not just about height. In fact I was never interested in Wilder-Parker before, because Parker looked like crap the last few fights and I thought he was way smaller than these guys, but turns out he's just shorter. He's 6'4, but he's over 240 pounds. So now that matchup actually interests me. My point is, at the top of the heavyweight division, there are really only three guys who check all four boxes: skills, power, height, and weight. That's Fury, Joshua, and Klitschko, ranked in that order currently (but only if Fury comes back the same guy). And if he's not too old, Luis Ortiz too.

Wilder on the other hand ticks the height box, and the power box, but not the skills box, and not the weight box. And he also has the worst chin of them all, possibly related to being so much lighter than them.

Wilder would get knocked out by Ortiz, Joshua, and Klitschko, which is why he ducked all of them. And I'm still not 100% convinced they didn't want to avoid Povetkin like the plague, and either they lucked out, or they knew the right strings to pull. But let's not get into that.

Wilder is a paper champion. Simple as that. If he catches anyone perfectly, he might win 1 out of 4 against Klitschko, Joshua, Fury, and Ortiz, but otherwise, even if he catches them good, they will be able to take his punches for awhile. Ironically, when people bring up the idea that "he just needs to land one," the opposite is what's actually true. I think Wilder could land 20 times on those guys, or possibly much more, and they would survive just like Stiverne did, and even faded Arreola did for awhile. But all they need to do is land once, or a couple times, and Wilder will either get KO'd on the spot or get very wobbly, and then they will KO him when he's too wobbly to defend himself.

Wilder-Parker could be interesting though. I think they might be on the same level. My heavyweight rankings would be:

1. Fury
2. Joshua
3. Klitschko
4. King Kong
5. Povetkin, with the asterisk of whatever is going on his with allegedly failed drug test, but there's a lot of suspicious shenanigans going on with that so until I see proof he cheated, I'll keep him on the list. Plus, King Kong also got busted for PEDs, and the UK boxing board thing is at least trying to say Fury might have tested positive, although maybe that's just to punish him for calling out the Illuminati and all that ****. Who knows man haha. As for the other two, they are probably just smarter about it, while Wilder just conveniently avoids VADA altogether so he doesn't even have to be smart about it, he just has to pass the useless commission tests.

In other words, odds are all are cheating. Ironically enough, the only one who never looked like he had a PED body was Tyson Fury. He was the only one who looked semi-natural, and neither his punching power or speed looked insane and chemically enhanced like some of these other guys. But everyone else on that list just looks like they're on PEDs.

6. Wilder
7. Parker
8. Maybe the Mexican who almost beat Parker
9. Who else is there? Hughie Fury?
10. Who else? Whyte I guess or did Chisora beat him? Maybe Dominic Breazeale? He's just so slow... Stiverne?

They should do a B+ heavyweight tournament between Chisora, Whyte, Stiverne, and Breazeale. What y'all think? That would be a good tournament in terms of heavyweight ACTION. Heck, include Hughie Fury, Joseph Parker, the Mexican who almost beat him, and Luis Ortiz. Basically the 5 through 10 guys, 8 guys, in a tournament, almost all with all action styles. Not all but most of them. That would be a lot of fun... to watch anyway, lol. What y'all think?

You truly hit it out of the park here. WILDER the most protected and hyped up fighter in boxing. They avoided Povetkin at all costs. Rather fight him in court than a ring.

[BoZz]

big fkn deal..wilder is a wild swinging cherry picker...fighting Polish car mechanics (part time boxers) and people think he's the real deal...wasn't his best win against charlie zelenof ?!

[Sledgeweather17]

Joshua seems to be a complete package of power brains and talent. Wilder has a right hand little brains or boxing acumen or intellect. Unless Wilder connects on a wild right hand which is possible then look for a Joshua win even a stoppage over a bewildered confused Wilder..

Joshua got crappy Stamina though, and Wilder has damn near unlimited Stamina, reach, and height advantage, albeit not by that much. He also has speed advantage, power is roughly the same, with Joshua being more heavy handed and Wilder more explosive.