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  • #31
    Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
    Nope not what I said at all, I said it's down to Wilder and his team to offer an offer as good to Parker as he would receive from Joshua or a 'competitive' offer no such offer has been made as far as we are aware and Hearn has set out a road map to AJ Parker with a building fight for Parker first, not one payday but two !

    Arum said Wilder don't bring shyt, i.e. Joshua is worth more as a fight, who wouldn't want that fight ? You gonna tell me Wilder is an easy fight ? Don't answer that just answer the rest.

    I'll add on a final note that it's pretty obvious who wants to fight who when Wilder is lining up to face Joshua too holding his hands out saying 'please pick me, I'm going to have to face Ortiz soon so I want to unify before I lose, p p p please'
    Obviously Joshua brings more than wilder. But wtf does hughie fury bring? He might not even show up again

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    • #32
      Originally posted by sicko View Post
      I'm hard on Wilder but I CANNOT blame him for the WBC BS of GIVING Stivernie Mandatory Status because Povetkin couldn't stop taking PED's! WBC should've just replaced Povetkin and picked a new opponent for Stivernie to fight for that Mandatory Spot. Honestly it should be Stivernie vs Luis Ortiz FOR a shot a Wilder. But instead once again because of these Belt Organizations and their absolute **** Rankings and them clearly SELLING Ranking Spots to promoters (ALLEGEDLY! lol) we get stick with **** match ups.

      So you mean to honestly tell me that is it a ***ing Coinscidence that 3 yes 3 ***ING Don King Fighters was WBC Mandatory's at the same time: Charles Hatley at 154 (who Jermell Charlo just whipped), Amir Imam is now Terrance Crawford Mandatory at 140 for his WBC Strap and also Stivernie at Heavyweight. COME ON! Boxing Corruption is so blatant now they don't even try to conceal that ****!

      Stivernie haven't done **** for his #1 Spot! Amir Imam haven't done **** since Granados beat him so HOW in the *** did either become Mandatory's for the WBC without beating any of the other Top 10 WBC Ranked Fighters. COME ON!
      At least Granados beat Imam. Stiverne has done literally nothing.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        I'm hard on Wilder but I CANNOT blame him for the WBC BS of GIVING Stivernie Mandatory Status because Povetkin couldn't stop taking PED's! WBC should've just replaced Povetkin and picked a new opponent for Stivernie to fight for that Mandatory Spot. Honestly it should be Stivernie vs Luis Ortiz FOR a shot a Wilder. But instead once again because of these Belt Organizations and their absolute **** Rankings and them clearly SELLING Ranking Spots to promoters (ALLEGEDLY! lol) we get stick with **** match ups.

        So you mean to honestly tell me that is it a ***ing Coinscidence that 3 yes 3 ***ING Don King Fighters was WBC Mandatory's at the same time: Charles Hatley at 154 (who Jermell Charlo just whipped), Amir Imam is now Terrance Crawford Mandatory at 140 for his WBC Strap and also Stivernie at Heavyweight. COME ON! Boxing Corruption is so blatant now they don't even try to conceal that ****!

        Stivernie haven't done **** for his #1 Spot! Amir Imam haven't done **** since Granados beat him so HOW in the *** did either become Mandatory's for the WBC without beating any of the other Top 10 WBC Ranked Fighters. COME ON!
        Thanks for the break down. I was going to keep it simple, like Don King might still have some pull with the WBC still. Expose the WBC for the corrupt shyt that they pull with their absurd rankings.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
          Stiverne is not a top ten heavy borderline top 20 possibly, I want to see Wilder fight a top ten heavyweight not just once either, regularly. Parker has had his belt a quarter of the time Wilder has had his and he's fought two how many has Wilder fought ?

          Parker is a much worse fighter than stiverne..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
            Nope not what I said at all, I said it's down to Wilder and his team to offer an offer as good to Parker as he would receive from Joshua or a 'competitive' offer no such offer has been made as far as we are aware and Hearn has set out a road map to AJ Parker with a building fight for Parker first, not one payday but two !

            Arum said Wilder don't bring shyt, i.e. Joshua is worth more as a fight, who wouldn't want that fight ? You gonna tell me Wilder is an easy fight ? Don't answer that just answer the rest.

            I'll add on a final note that it's pretty obvious who wants to fight who when Wilder is lining up to face Joshua too holding his hands out saying 'please pick me, I'm going to have to face Ortiz soon so I want to unify before I lose, p p p please'
            Except that AJ has a Klitschko rematch (likely) and a mandatory with Pulev on his plate, so Parker's "road map" is a long, long haul.

            A fight with Wilder leaves the winner in much better position to get a unification with AJ (next year likely) and raises their profile and bargaining position.

            Surely Team Parker didn't make out too well financially with that filler fight after Hughie pulled a Fury. He'd be well served to take a fight with Wilder, certainly worth AT LEAST as much as any fight he could take next.

            Everything that has been said and written indicates that Wilder's team has pursued a fight with Parker and made an offer (we don't know how much, but there have been statements that they have been trying to negotiate that fight) Parker's team could always counter and make a big offer for Wilder to go to NZ if they think the fight is worth more there.

            This fight needs to be made.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
              At least Granados beat Imam. Stiverne has done literally nothing.
              True and at least he has fought as recent as April of this year. Stiverne haven't fought since 2015 so that adds yet another question

              How is a guy who haven't been active in 1 1/2 year rated the #1 Contender for a World Championship?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by sicko View Post
                True and at least he has fought as recent as April of this year. Stiverne haven't fought since 2015 so that adds yet another question

                How is a guy who haven't been active in 1 1/2 year rated the #1 Contender for a World Championship?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by saintpat View Post
                  Except that AJ has a Klitschko rematch (likely) and a mandatory with Pulev on his plate, so Parker's "road map" is a long, long haul.

                  A fight with Wilder leaves the winner in much better position to get a unification with AJ (next year likely) and raises their profile and bargaining position.

                  Surely Team Parker didn't make out too well financially with that filler fight after Hughie pulled a Fury. He'd be well served to take a fight with Wilder, certainly worth AT LEAST as much as any fight he could take next.

                  Everything that has been said and written indicates that Wilder's team has pursued a fight with Parker and made an offer (we don't know how much, but there have been statements that they have been trying to negotiate that fight) Parker's team could always counter and make a big offer for Wilder to go to NZ if they think the fight is worth more there.

                  This fight needs to be made.
                  Plus Parker brings zero $ to the table. At least Hearn can exploit the English hatred of the Yanks to sell these American bum fights for AJ..

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                  • #39
                    I wonder where this fight will take place? West Coast? Vegas? East coast? Hopefully they have it in L.A or Vegas

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by bigdramashow View Post
                      im lost for words with wilder i really am. said it as a joke a while ago that i can see him rematching stiverne, little did i know thats the plan.... as always there will be excuses. coming up to 40 fights and 40 bums, theres always an excuse, but let me guess, the next fight after this will be a big name!!!! thats always the official line lol
                      Your post fails in so many levels

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