Would someone like to explain to Headshots pushing an opponents head down is illegal.

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  • Donnie Herrera
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    #31
    Originally posted by Vegemil
    Then a piano fell on my head.
    Consequences!

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    • HeadShots
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      #32
      pushing an opponent's head is not the same as wrestling.

      wrestling basically stops the actual boxing for like 20 seconds until the ref breaks it up. leading to holding and hitting etc.

      when a person like Ward throws 5 hugs a round.... basically more than half the round is spent in the embrace.

      the energy used to wrestle probably exceeds the energy to actually box for both boxers.

      that is a huge difference to a shove which is a micro second of shot setting.
      Last edited by HeadShots; 06-04-2017, 10:11 AM.

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        #33
        wart should be allowed to headbutt his opponents since he can't crack an egg with those pillows he has for fist

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        • Robbie Barrett
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          #34
          Originally posted by HeadShots
          pushing an opponent's head is not the same as wrestling.

          wrestling basically stops the actual boxing for like 20 seconds until the ref breaks it up. leading to holding and hitting etc.

          when a person like Ward throws 5 hugs a round.... basically more than half the round is spent in the embrace.

          the energy used to wrestle probably exceeds the energy to actually box for both boxers.

          that is a huge difference to a shove which is a micro second of shot setting.
          So now you agree it's illegal?

          When have you seen a fighter push and shove someones head down for a microsecond?

          It usually results in holding and the ref having to break it.

          The energy used to support someones body weight on your neck/back is a lot more than it is holding.
          Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 06-05-2017, 12:55 AM.

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            #35
            Is it just me, or is pushing an opponent's head down not explicitly considered a foul....now ducking so your head is below your opponents belt-line is...funny how the tactics Ward uses are explicitly laid out as fouls.



            Sec. 108. NAC 467.675 is hereby amended to read as follows:
            467.675 The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:
            1. Hitting an opponent below the [belt.] navel or behind the ear.
            2. Hitting an opponent who is knocked down or taking a knee, or is getting up after being
            knocked down [.] or taking a knee.
            3. Holding an opponent with one hand and hitting with the other.
            4. Holding or deliberately maintaining a clinch.
            5. Wrestling , [or] kicking [.] or roughing.
            6. If the referee has signaled that the opponent has been knocked out, striking an opponent
            who is helpless as a result of previous blows and so supported by the ropes that he or she does
            not fall.
            7. Butting with the head , [or] shoulder , [or using the] knee [.] or elbow.
            8. Hitting with the open glove, the butt , inside or back of the hand, or the wrist or the
            elbow . [, and all backhand blows.]
            9. Purposely going down onto the canvas of the ring without being hit [.] or for the
            purpose of avoiding a blow.
            10. Striking deliberately at that part of the body over the kidneys.
            11. [Deliberately using the] Using the pivot blow or otherwise striking an opponent while
            completing a turn or pivot.
            12. Using a rabbit punch [.
            12.] or otherwise striking an opponent on the back of the head, the base of the skull or the
            back of the neck.
            13. Jabbing the opponent’s eyes with the thumb of the glove.
            --82--
            Adopted Regulation R062-16
            [13.] 14. Using abusive language in the ring.
            [14.] 15. Engaging in any unsportsmanlike [trick or action] conduct which causes injury to
            an opponent.
            [15.] 16. Hitting on the break.
            [16.] 17. Hitting after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
            [17.] 18. Hitting an opponent whose head is between and outside of the ropes.
            [18.] 19. Pushing an opponent about the ring or into the ropes.
            20. Intentionally spitting out the mouthpiece.
            21. Holding the ropes while hitting an opponent.
            22. Biting or spitting at an opponent or the referee.
            23. Failing to follow the instructions of the referee.
            24. Stepping on an opponent.
            25. Crouching below an opponent’s belt.
            26. Leaving a neutral corner.
            27. Interference by the corner.
            28. Hair pulling.
            29. Groin attacks of any kind.
            30. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, faking an
            injury or intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece.
            31. Throwing in the towel during competition.
            32. Applying any foreign substance to the hair, body, clothing or gloves immediately
            before or during a contest or exhibition that could result in an unfair advantage.

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            • Real King Kong
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              #36
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              So now you agree it's illegal?

              When have you seen a fighter push and shove someones head down for a microsecond?

              It usually results in holding and the ref having to break it.

              The energy used to support someones body weight on your neck/back is a lot more than it is holding.
              I think you guys are thinking of different things.

              This...



              Vs. This...

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              • Robbie Barrett
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                #37
                Originally posted by considerthis
                I think you guys are thinking of different things.

                This...


                Vs. This...


                No. We were discussing this.









                Which HeadShots said wasn't illegal.

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                • Real King Kong
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                  No. We were discussing this.









                  Which HeadShots said wasn't illegal.
                  Just the way he was describing it, sounds like he was talking about using an extended hand to control or steer the opponent's head.

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                  • HeadShots
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    No. We were discussing this.









                    Which HeadShots said wasn't illegal.




                    lmao kovalev is trying to control ward's head in the clinch. so ward can't hold and hit.



                    ward is the one with the extended arms to hug. simply moving the head does not cause clinching. it's Ward that's clinching. get it in your head you idiot.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by HeadShots
                      lmao kovalev is trying to control ward's head in the clinch. so ward can't hold and hit.



                      ward is the one with the extended arms to hug. simply moving the head does not cause clinching. it's Ward that's clinching. get it in your head you idiot.
                      Kovalev is already pushing down Wards head before Ward reaches out anywhere. It's clear as day that Kovalev is the one fouling.

                      You've done nothing but embarrass yourself.

                      It's OK for you to admit you're wrong and learn from your mistakes.

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