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Andre Ward's Clinching "Skills" Revealed *GIFS*

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  • #81
    Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
    that is a myth. go watch his kessler fight. i can make more gifs from that fight than this fight.


    his boxing skills are completely overrated. he does less clinching against complete bums but against the 2 best fighters he faced in Kessler(early in his career) and Kovalev, he went straight UFC.


    it has nothing to do with him losing athletic ability .... it has to do with his overrated skills as a boxer.



    his offense is terrible.
    He might have always been a clinch spammer. But he has lost explosiveness no doubt which makes him spam clinches even more now

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    • #82
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      Lol at this video and the commentary "and that is what you call an intentional elbow". Just a coincidence i'm sure.
      Last edited by SplitSecond; 05-31-2017, 04:19 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by RussTBE View Post
        Ward has lost alot of speed and explosiveness the past few years and lacks any real power at LHW.He has to do stuff like this to surivive in a fight with a guy like kovalev. I have always respected wards skill level and thought of him very highly , but hes not the same guy he was in the super six. As of now hes actually kind of overrated, super six ward was a top p4p fighter this version is like a watered down clinch machine without any power.
        Totally agree with this post. He's definitely lost a step, Stevie Wonder could see it, the injuries and inactivity have taken their toll. He is not the fighter he was pre-2014 physically, he has to kid his way through fights now, its a credit to his ring IQ that he can do that.

        Its weird saying he is not one of the top dogs anymore because he just went tough with Kovalev, but I can't help but feel the same as you that he isn't on the level of the best guys p4p. You could see it in the Smith, Barrera, and Brand fights, not just Kovalev.

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        • #84
          Looking at all those videos you see how similar Kell Brook does the same type of holding.

          Now in the same fight lets see how many times Kov initiated a clinch

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          • #85
            Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
            Totally agree with this post. He's definitely lost a step, Stevie Wonder could see it, the injuries and inactivity have taken their toll. He is not the fighter he was pre-2014 physically, he has to kid his way through fights now, its a credit to his ring IQ that he can do that.

            Its weird saying he is not one of the top dogs anymore because he just went tough with Kovalev, but I can't help but feel the same as you that he isn't on the level of the best guys p4p. You could see it in the Smith, Barrera, and Brand fights, not just Kovalev.
            How many steps has Kovalev lost????

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            • #86
              Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
              Looking at all those videos you see how similar Kell Brook does the same type of holding.

              Now in the same fight lets see how many times Kov initiated a clinch
              That does fit their agenda.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by HeadShots View Post
                At least you can see clearly. I still can't believe there are people that can look at a man rushing forward with his head straight into another man's head and say it's not a headbutt.



                it's a mental illness at this point.
                It not a head butt that he is looking for, he is pushing his shoulder into the other guys chest to get them out of balance and smother their punches. He goes so low and comes up so close that he winds up headbutting his foe

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                  How many steps has Kovalev lost????
                  None - he is in his prime in my opinion.

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                  • #89
                    kovalev is the one trying to throw hands. ward is the one trying to smother his work. has kovalev ever been known as a clincher? who is the common denominator here?


                    if you can't see that at this point of the game then it's time to check into a psyche ward.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                      None - he is in his prime in my opinion.
                      He just lacks the skills to beat a fighter that has lost a step.

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