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  • #41
    Originally posted by techliam View Post
    How on earth is a win over Spence better than a win over Garcia?

    What has Spence done ? Even if Garcia wasn't a great champion at the weight, he actually beat some ok welterweights
    I think Spence is the better Welterweight than Danny. He beat Paulie, Guerrero and Vargas. The style Spence beat Bundu and Algeri in was better, they were comparable wins. Spence is bigger, stronger and more destructive a welter than Danny. I think he would've beaten everyone Garcia did but better. Can you imagine Paulie taking him any rounds? . So by virtue of a better win against Porter, and against a better Welter in Spence in my view, yeah I think he edges Keith.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by bluepete View Post
      Yeah. But Brook beat an unbeaten Porter more clearly than Thurman. Beating an unbeaten Spence surely outstrips a welterweight Garcia. None of Thurmans other wins such as Bundu (beaten by Spence) or Guererro, Collazo ect compare either. What's Thurman done to deserve it then? As far as Manny, sure he has better names on he's record, but look at the stage he's at. Same as Bradley. If we're going only by career resume then Klitschko is still the best heavy. Brooks number one if he beats Spence. Imo.
      Wow you actually really believe that Brook resume is on the same level when or if he beats Spence? My word.......

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        Wow you actually really believe that Brook resume is on the same level when or if he beats Spence? My word.......
        I explained earlier why I think Spence would be a better win than Garcia. So since they only got Porter after that and Kell did it clearer, what's the difference. Explain to me Thurmans massive resume outside of Porter and Garcia.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by techliam View Post
          How on earth is a win over Spence better than a win over Garcia?

          What has Spence done ? Even if Garcia wasn't a great champion at the weight, he actually beat some ok welterweights
          Garcia's resume at welterweight:

          1) Washed up, small, old, featherfisted Paulie Malignaggi

          2) Washed up Robert Guerrero who lost to an actual cab driver after the Garcia fight.

          3) Spence's left overs, forgot the guy's name.

          4) Loss to Keith Thurman.

          And you think Garcia at welterweight is a better win than Spence?

          Lol, hell no! It's exactly the same. They both aint done nothing at welterweight. At least Spence KO'd Algieri, Garcia went to war with the cab driver loser.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Triangle theories are not always reliable, but Thurman went life and death with Porter, who Brook beat easily.
            Pac beat some fighters Floyd fough easier too ,IMO Brook/Spence winner vs Thurman is The match in 147

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View Post
              Garcia's resume at welterweight:

              1) Washed up, small, old, featherfisted Paulie Malignaggi

              2) Washed up Robert Guerrero who lost to an actual cab driver after the Garcia fight.

              3) Spence's left overs, forgot the guy's name.

              4) Loss to Keith Thurman.

              And you think Garcia at welterweight is a better win than Spence?

              Lol, hell no! It's exactly the same. They both aint done nothing at welterweight. At least Spence KO'd Algieri, Garcia went to war with the cab driver loser.
              Spence has done nothing of note, literally nothing

              Beat Thurmans leftovers, and Algieri, who I don't think has even won at welterweight

              I'll take a win over faded Guerrero and a close decision with Peterson over that any day because those two actually achieved something at 147

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              • #47
                Originally posted by techliam View Post
                Spence has done nothing of note, literally nothing

                Beat Thurmans leftovers, and Algieri, who I don't think has even won at welterweight

                I'll take a win over faded Guerrero and a close decision with Peterson over that any day because those two actually achieved something at 147
                What did they achieve at welterweight?

                And what about the Spence leftover that Garcia fought before the Thurman fight?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bluepete View Post
                  I explained earlier why I think Spence would be a better win than Garcia. So since they only got Porter after that and Kell did it clearer, what's the difference. Explain to me Thurmans massive resume outside of Porter and Garcia.
                  Funny thing is they're going to keep saying Garcia a legit ww. He won a vacant title beating a guy who lost to a cab driver his next fight. Brooks and Thurmans resume is pretty damn similar. People have to stop listing guerrero as a good win at ww.

                  People are so in love with names they don't look at the circumstances of when they fought. No one can make a logical argument that Garcia is a good ww. He doesn't look like have the tools nor does he does he have a legit win there. I have a feeling he'll never beat a top 5 ww.

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                  • #49
                    No you won't. Once Floyd retired it threw 147 up in the air and nobody has cleaned up the division. There is no concensus number 1 guy. Many will feel Pacquiao or Thurman are still the top guy at 147. Pacquiao is debatable but argument is there that he is lineal champ. And Thurman is the unified champ. Brook would have to beat one of those guys. Like it or not if he somehow wins today people will just call Spence a hype job and discredit this win saying well who did Spence really beat.
                    Last edited by bigdunny1; 05-27-2017, 06:18 AM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by cork View Post
                      Funny thing is they're going to keep saying Garcia a legit ww. He won a vacant title beating a guy who lost to a cab driver his next fight. Brooks and Thurmans resume is pretty damn similar. People have to stop listing guerrero as a good win at ww.

                      People are so in love with names they don't look at the circumstances of when they fought. No one can make a logical argument that Garcia is a good ww. He doesn't look like have the tools nor does he does he have a legit win there. I have a feeling he'll never beat a top 5 ww.
                      Agree with everything you said mate. 👍

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