140lb Terence "Bud" Crawford vs 140lb Floyd "Pretty Boy Mayweather

[The Big Dunn]

no, your not getting the point. i know what you're saying and im telling you that floyd didnt whooped on pac, so even if they say TC beat prime floyd, how does that equals to TC brutalize manny when floyd didnt?

i know it wasnt prime floyd vs prime pac when they fought BUT that doesnt change the fact that floyd didnt beat down on manny so how can TC brutalize pac just because some posters said TC beats prime floyd?

and i never said TC beat prime floyd or floyd beat TC. stop posting like a fan boy!!!


i can see what you're saying if you replace prime floyd with prime marquez. if TC beats prime marquez then yeah he'll prolly whooped on manny.

I just explained it dude. Instead of jabs from Floyd, those will be power shots from Crawford. He will also be throwing more than Floyd did.

Lets just hope the Crawford/Manny fight gets made.

[djtmal]

Manny was never that much of a threat. That's what guys like you just don't get. Even when roach was finally honest about things you still hold on to this.

I agree, Crawford is threat to prime Floyd. I bet Manny would agree as well. The genius of this thread Is it forces the ******ed Manny fans suggesting he'd beat Crawford to get off that bullish-t.

Crawford, like Floyd way back, is trying to come up so he wouldn't walk away from testing like that. I asked before and I ask again, please do not pretend Crawford would rather make himself look guilty and refuse testing. He hasnt shown he would make such a cowardly decision IMO.

Crawford would do like Floyd, kov, and other guys- he'd take the short money/crappy deal and go in and try to win.

You a trip man. You keep mentioning Manny, and I ain't said one word about this dude. Who cares if Manny feels Crawford is a threat. Like I am some big Manny fan. I guess if I ain't on the Money Team or don't fall in with the Mayweather politricks, that makes me a Manny diehard, and you don't know what Crawford would do if he was being accused of being a juicer and Floyd or any name guy wanted to make him bow down at the negotiating table.

Plus it ain't about what Crawford would or wouldn't do at this point anyway when it comes to threats, because his career is still in development, its about what Floyd has already done when it came to threats. When he became the a-side the demands were absolutely ridiculous, he preserved himself by ducking a division while the other guys went toe to toe, he allowed the biggest matchups to marinate to the point that fighter b is a shell of what he once was, no fights where the style matchup creates intrigue, etc, etc, etc.

That aside, unless this dude has a Zab Judah chin, I give Crawford a good shot at outpointing Floyd @ 140lbs.

[WesternChamp]

I just explained it dude. Instead of jabs from Floyd, those will be power shots from Crawford. He will also be throwing more than Floyd did.

Lets just hope the Crawford/Manny fight gets made.

and playing right into manny's strength.

im actually surpirse to see you saying TC will be aggressive with manny and not use his boxing skills, reach and height.

but when other posters complain about a boring fight because the other guy wont engage, you come in and say, what for? he has the height and reach advantage so why would he not use that? but with TC you're saying he will throw all that out the window and **** with pac instead? LOL

[djtmal]

blah blah blah

this aint 38 year old floyd were talking

this is the floyd Crawford would be fighting

young, prime, mean, something to prove

lol..who is he proving it against? a washed gatti? floyd @ 140 was not challenged at all...

[The Big Dunn]

You a trip man. You keep mentioning Manny, and I ain't said one word about this dude. Who cares if Manny feels Crawford is a threat. Like I am some big Manny fan. I guess if I ain't on the Money Team or don't fall in with the Mayweather politricks, that makes me a Manny diehard, and you don't know what Crawford would do if he was being accused of being a juicer and Floyd or any name guy wanted to make him bow down at the negotiating table.

Plus it ain't about what Crawford would or wouldn't do at this point anyway when it comes to threats, because his career is still in development, its about what Floyd has already done when it came to threats. When he became the a-side the demands were absolutely ridiculous, he preserved himself by ducking a division while the other guys went toe to toe, he allowed the biggest matchups to marinate to the point that fighter b is a shell of what he once was, no fights where the style matchup creates intrigue, etc, etc, etc.

That aside, unless this dude has a Zab Judah chin, I give Crawford a good shot at outpointing Floyd @ 140lbs.

Crawford wouldn't have tried to weasel out of the tests. He never has. Only one guy refused testing and then wouldn't agree to any of the compromise cutoff dates offered. Only one guy refused an offer 30% more than he ever got (in fairness that turned out to be the right move as he got double that plus). It is unfair to suggest others would behave like Manny did.

If you care about being honest, then you'd point out that Floyd called out all of these threats and none of them would fight him until after he made ODH more money than any opponent he ever fought, including Chavez sr and Tito, guys with huge fanbases.

He preserved himself-you mean he "retired" (sat out) citing hand injuries. A quick question-when others fighters "retired" for a while-example Marco Antonio Barrera or SRL-were they doing that to preserve themselves while others fought?

Again, you are not being honest. Floyd didn't force Shane to have a toothache. Floyd didn't force Manny to fight JMM a 4th time and get KTFO. These men made these decisions. Hold them accountable and stop using their cowardness to judge Floyd's career.

If you give Crawford a good chance to outpoint Prime Floyd I am fine with that. Prime Floyd would be the best boxer in the world right now. I just hope your opinion assumes this but my guess it doesn't.

[The Big Dunn]

and playing right into manny's strength.

im actually surpirse to see you saying TC will be aggressive with manny and not use his boxing skills, reach and height.

but when other posters complain about a boring fight because the other guy wont engage, you come in and say, what for? he has the height and reach advantage so why would he not use that? but with TC you're saying he will throw all that out the window and **** with pac instead? LOL

I posted nothing of the sort. You are somehow pretending this is what I meant because you don't have a reasonable way to refute what I actually posted.

[WesternChamp]

Crawford wouldn't have tried to weasel out of the tests. He never has. Only one guy refused testing and then wouldn't agree to any of the compromise cutoff dates offered. Only one guy refused an offer 30% more than he ever got (in fairness that turned out to be the right move as he got double that plus). It is unfair to suggest others would behave like Manny did.

If you care about being honest, then you'd point out that Floyd called out all of these threats and none of them would fight him until after he made ODH more money than any opponent he ever fought, including Chavez sr and Tito, guys with huge fanbases.

He preserved himself-you mean he "retired" (sat out) citing hand injuries. A quick question-when others fighters "retired" for a while-example Marco Antonio Barrera or SRL-were they doing that to preserve themselves while others fought?

Again, you are not being honest. Floyd didn't force Shane to have a toothache. Floyd didn't force Manny to fight JMM a 4th time and get KTFO. These men made these decisions. Hold them accountable and stop using their cowardness to judge Floyd's career.

If you give Crawford a good chance to outpoint Prime Floyd I am fine with that. Prime Floyd would be the best boxer in the world right now. I just hope your opinion assumes this but my guess it doesn't.

and you dont know that. your words is just as good as mines. pac never refuse blood test either prior to the floyd fight negotiation. you're only posting what floyd request and saying pac decline but you're leaving out what team pac counter offer to floyd and floyd refusing.

[WesternChamp]

I posted nothing of the sort. You are somehow pretending this is what I meant because you don't have a reasonable way to refute what I actually posted.

you really want me to bump the post you posted a few pages back saying TC will be agressive against manny and will not box him?

[therealpugilist]

lol..who is he proving it against? a washed gatti? floyd @ 140 was not challenged at all...

he was only "challenged" vs castillo, and Jesus Chavez in 30+ fights at 130-140 everyone else he thoroughly dominated

floyd at 147 and 154 was in his 30s, out of his best weight and past prime


from 130-140 he proved it against better opposition than Crawford has faced thus far bwhahahahahahaha


Jose Luis Castillo(2x)...Corrales...chicanito Hernandez, Gatti, Corely, Jesus Chavez, Angel Manfredy, Goyo Vargas, and Carlos Hernandez


sorry....

[The Big Dunn]

and you dont know that. your words is just as good as mines. pac never refuse blood test either prior to the floyd fight negotiation. you're only posting what floyd request and saying pac decline but you're leaving out what team pac counter offer to floyd and floyd refusing.

If mnny had accepted testing, there would be no need for a counter offer.

you really want me to bump the post you posted a few pages back saying TC will be agressive against manny and will not box him?

You are having a problem comprehending posts. You are also going off on tangents and its making this back and forth more difficult than it needs to be.

I made 2 separate statements.

1. if Crawford and Manny fight it will not be boring.
2. If you think Crafword beats prime Floyd then you surely think he will beat current Manny.