140lb Terence "Bud" Crawford vs 140lb Floyd "Pretty Boy Mayweather

[The Big Dunn]

I didn't bring up Manny, at all. So kill that, and putting words in folks mouth is all you do, and i do hold cats accountable for their actions. I thought the Mayweather camp did some real bush-league moves when they became the a-side over the years and i hold them accountable.

Really man, if you, Larry, the realpuke or whatever his name is, are going to be so sensitive about people who don't see every Floyd mythical matchup as an easy Floyd win, or how certain fights of his are viewed, or whatever the case may be, just go start a pro Floyd forum.

You didn't bring Manny up by name, no. Check post #13. Now who were you referring to? Please, stop pretending.

I'm fine with your opinion that asking for PED testing or the no ppv offers were"bush league". Just don't use that to justify the actions the fighters made. ODH had bush league tactics when he was in Floyd's position. The difference-guys like Floyd and Bhop wore the gloves he asked for or came in at the weight he wanted, took the short purses and went in and won the fights.

Manny and Shane outright refused. Saying anything else skews the truth and makes floyd responsible for decisions made by grown men.

Correcting your post by including the things you omitted isn't being sensitive.
As I stated I have no problem with you thinking Crawford would beat Floyd or that it would be a tough fight. I am ok with people disagreeing with me.

[bluzi]

Floyd takes him to school until we see something more from bud , we are talking about one of the best , atg let's give him the benefit of the doubt for now , bud can still show he can be special all he needs to do is move up and start taking names 147 has tons of great scalps to take , if he can I will revise my judgment on this

[djtmal]

.....argument nullified...who has crawford faced with a prime mayweathers skills, RING IQ, and natural ability...no one...deal with it,


get your facts straight...they are no more than .5 inches seperated in height and floyd has 2 inches on him in reach

bruh...you dont know shyt about boxing bwahahahahahahahaa

now asks other posters who make more sense...me or you...bwahahahahaha


im a cheerleader because i school you by supporting my opinion with facts and logic........:bukkake:

you know what you really are f**king pathetic...

you don't have to know anything about boxing to size up two dudes and judge height and reach. crawford is taller, which i was spot on with, and i said relatively the same reach, which turns out to be by your account, two f**king inches, whoopee,

but you so hard up to try to look so f**king smart that you just come off looking like a nickpicking clingy a** chick...

...and if you took the time to read, i already said we know what Floyd brings to the table, but @ 140 lbs. his opposition was extremely weak in comparison to who Crawford just beat @ 140lbs.

why don't you just stick to agreeing or disagreeing with the argument presented, than trying to own somebody...you just might learn how to listen and comprehend better, or better still, go start a floyd cheerleading forum so you and your floyd boys can suck floyd off all day...

[therealpugilist]

2009 Pacquiao that dominated Cotto VS 2015 Pacquiao with no knockouts in 5 years, lost, knocked out, older. Not the same fighter.

Still think Floyd would have won though !

Bruh....if they fought in 09 it would've been a better version of mayweather as well....younger, more punch output, faster hands, reflexes and legs

Go through my history, only shot Manny had in my eyes was a 1 punch Roy vs Tarveresque ko

He was never gonna outhink, outwit Floyd who is the more versatile fighter.

Hell he couldn't even beat JMM clearly once and lost to and got outboxed by morales... Who is great but isn't as good or talented as mayweather

[therealpugilist]

you know what you really are f**king pathetic...

you don't have to know anything about boxing to size up two dudes and judge height and reach. crawford is taller, which i was spot on with, and i said relatively the same reach, which turns out to be by your account, two f**king inches, whoopee,

but you so hard up to try to look so f**king smart that you just come off looking like a nickpicking clingy a** chick...

...and if you took the time to read, i already said we know what Floyd brings to the table, but @ 140 lbs. his opposition was extremely weak in comparison to who Crawford just beat @ 140lbs.

why don't you just stick to agreeing or disagreeing with the argument presented, than trying to own somebody...you just might learn how to listen and comprehend better, or better still, go start a floyd cheerleading forum so you and your floyd boys can suck floyd off all day...

Sure signs of weak argument..... Insults

You aren't good @ this and obviously have a distaste for mayweather bwahahaha

To bad your feelings mean nothing when talking facts....tears are real...5/2/15 ruined lives

[djtmal]

You didn't bring Manny up by name, no. Check post #13. Now who were you referring to? Please, stop pretending.

I'm fine with your opinion that asking for PED testing or the no ppv offers were"bush league". Just don't use that to justify the actions the fighters made. ODH had bush league tactics when he was in Floyd's position. The difference-guys like Floyd and Bhop wore the gloves he asked for or came in at the weight he wanted, took the short purses and went in and won the fights.

Manny and Shane outright refused. Saying anything else skews the truth and makes floyd responsible for decisions made by grown men.

Correcting your post by including the things you omitted isn't being sensitive.
As I stated I have no problem with you thinking Crawford would beat Floyd or that it would be a tough fight. I am ok with people disagreeing with me.

I don't give a two s**ts. Did I say Manny. Answer the question straight.

How many times I gotta tell ya, I don't give a f**k who refused what, who's tooth was hurting, you get the point. So if we talking Floyd, and Floyd ain't fight these cats when I thought the fights mattered, he just ain't fight 'em. End of. Its Floyds legacy that it hurts not theirs. Only Floyd Fanboys are gonna sit here and defend that s**t. Not yours truly.

Now if you really want to get technical. @ 140 lbs. Floyd was still on HBO Championship Boxing he wasn't a cash cow by any stretch, not Money May yet. So it would really be two prime guys at the peak of their powers going head to head to see whose the best. I say Crawford outpoints him for all the reasons I already stated.

[djtmal]

Sure signs of weak argument..... Insults

You aren't good @ this and obviously have a distaste for mayweather bwahahaha

To bad your feelings mean nothing when talking facts....tears are real...5/2/15 ruined lives

why don't you just stick to agreeing or disagreeing with the argument presented, than trying to own somebody...you just might learn how to listen and comprehend better, or better still, go start a floyd cheerleading forum so you and your floyd boys can suck floyd off all day...

[The Big Dunn]

I don't give a two s**ts. Did I say Manny. Answer the question straight.

How many times I gotta tell ya, I don't give a f**k who refused what, who's tooth was hurting, you get the point. So if we talking Floyd, and Floyd ain't fight these cats when I thought the fights mattered, he just ain't fight 'em. End of. Its Floyds legacy that it hurts not theirs. Only Floyd Fanboys are gonna sit here and defend that s**t. Not yours truly.

Now if you really want to get technical. @ 140 lbs. Floyd was still on HBO Championship Boxing he wasn't a cash cow by any stretch, not Money May yet. So it would really be two prime guys at the peak of their powers going head to head to see whose the best. I say Crawford outpoints him for all the reasons I already stated.

I thought I did answer it straight.

I just don't think its right or fair to measure a boxer's legacy using the actions/decisions that other men took to avoid fighting him. Sadly, this is something you only see when Floyd is the fighter whose legacy is being evaluated.

For example I can't imagine anyone rational saying "well Lewis didn't fight Bowe" and using that to measure his legacy without specifying why that fight didn't occur. Or measuring GGG's legacy by factoring in Sergio refusing to fight him. But hey, if you think this is proper more power to you.

The only thing I'd say regarding your points about competition faced isCorley had been a world champ. Diaz hasn't, so its weird to see you give Diaz amateur accomplishments more respect than you do Corley's pro accomplishments when you evaluate competition. We agree Gatti was at the end when Floyd beat him. Floyd's overall resume at this point was also far superior to Crawford's is now.

[djtmal]

I thought I did answer it straight.

I just don't think its right or fair to measure a boxer's legacy using the actions/decisions that other men took to avoid fighting him. Sadly, this is something you only see when Floyd is the fighter whose legacy is being evaluated.

For example I can't imagine anyone rational saying "well Lewis didn't fight Bowe" and using that to measure his legacy without specifying why that fight didn't occur. Or measuring GGG's legacy by factoring in Sergio refusing to fight him. But hey, if you think this is proper more power to you.

The only thing I'd say regarding your points about competition faced is Corley had been a world champ. Diaz hasn't, so its weird to see you give Diaz amateur accomplishments more respect than you do Corley's pro accomplishments when you evaluate competition. We agree Gatti was at the end when Floyd beat him. Floyd's overall resume at this point was also far superior to Crawford's is now.

We not talking Lennox, or GGG, we talking Floyd, and fair or not, everybody is not going to share your same Floyd sentiments.

Corley, imo, was a beltholder, and a low level one at best, not what I would consider a world champ,and thats all he ever was going to be. I give the olympic gold medalist more credit here because normally dudes who have won gold like oscar, sweet pea, sugar, ali, were highly touted prospects, atg's and hof's and boxing's best skilled guys overall, and crawford trounced this guy..

[Mukuro]

Crawford would have a difficult style for Floyd. I think we need to see more of Bud at the highest level, but I wouldn't count him out in this matchup.

I would argue Floyd's best work was done after his first retirement at 147. Castillo was a full plate for him at 135, and his best win at 140 was... washed up Gatti? Corley?