140lb Terence "Bud" Crawford vs 140lb Floyd "Pretty Boy Mayweather

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  • djtmal
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    If you have to lie about things there is no need to discuss them. Manny turned down the fight numerous times. Shame had a toothache. Arum was clear Floyd agreed to fight cotto but arum wouldn't guarantee him the money he wanted.

    Crawford doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would use a toothache or fake stitches to get out of a high risk fight. Unfortunately, just like Floyd, he can't get a Manny fight so he has to go other places.

    Hopefully, Crawford gets to fight Manny next. If he would beat prime Floyd as many suggest, he should brutally and viciously beat Manny to a pulp.
    ooooh so emotional....lol...chill man.... we already know the excuses tilt in floyd's favor for pac, shane, cotto, margarito, williams, etc., even though he ducked a whole welterweight division for years and came back to fight a lightweight in marquez....

    floyd is not only putting new meaning to low risk, high reward, this guy is blazing new trails...the old blueprint was to let the fight "marinate" until it damn near dies on the vine...

    the new scam now for floyd is, non boxers who have zero experience...no risk, high reward....easy $....Floyd will be calling out Serena Williams next...the shame....

    talks big s**t about ggg, but it'll be quite some time before he's a low enough risk, so in the meanwhile, ggg is just too big..., but i'll whoop his a** though...but that's your boy Floyd...no risk, high reward....i'll bark, but will keep a safe distance till i know they don't bite back..
    Last edited by djtmal; 05-24-2017, 02:39 PM.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by WesternChamp
      Notice there's a pattern though. It's not just one guy that he didn't fight at that time. He even retired when his division was stacked.

      So you said pac is ducking Crawford because arum won't give him the money he wanted but then you said floyd agreed to fight cotto back then but arum wouldn't give him the money he wanted yet this is not a duck and its Arums fault? lol I can't even make this up.
      The pattern is guys didn't fight him when he was high risk, low reward and then fought him once ODH md hatton did once they saw that Floyd was now a huge draw. If it was anyone else you'd point this out and move on. But it's Floyd, you want to denigrate him any way you can, so you do.

      I never posted PAC is ducking anyone. I said you are not labeling it a duck because you are a Manny fan. Well you just made that up because I didn't post that either. Why are you calling the Floyd/cotto situation a duck but not Manny/Crawford?

      Look man all this stuff is documented. You know the truth but are choosing to present it the way you are. All I can do is post the facts.

      I'm good with whatever you choose. Guys like you only do this because Floyd always is ranked ahead of manny in any ranking of atg and since Floyd defeated Manny by such a wide margin when they fought.

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #53
        Crawford is in that lineage of Floyd, Roy, SRL, and Ali. Him an Loma are the successors to that style. Floyd at 140 was at the height of his powers. Think about that. A top 10 ATG at his absolute best weight and best abilities.

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          #54
          Originally posted by djtmal
          ooooh so emotional....lol...chill man.... we already know the excuses tilt in floyd's favor for pac, shane, cotto, margarito, williams, etc., even though he ducked a whole welterweight division for years and came back to fight a lightweight in marquez....

          floyd is not only putting new meaning to low risk, high reward, this guy is blazing new trails...the old blueprint was to let the fight "marinate" until it damn near dies on the vine...

          the new scam now for floyd is, non boxers who have zero experience...no risk, high reward....easy $....Floyd will be calling out Serena Williams next...the shame....

          talks big s**t about ggg, but it'll be quite some time before he's a low enough risk, so in the meanwhile, ggg is just too big..., but i'll whoop his a** though...but that's your boy Floyd...no risk, high reward....i'll bark, but will keep a safe distance till i know they don't bite back..
          If you say so. It seems to bother you that Floyd can get millions to watch him fight an MMA guy in a easy money grab but Manny is being relegated to obscurity in Australia against a guy he didn't even know existed.

          Looks like the fans have decided who is at fault for the debacle.

          Yes he answered a question about ggg. What would you expect him to say?

          You can criticize Floyd however you wish. As I told western champ, had Manny defeated Floyd you'd both be posting about more interesting topics.

          Instead, you are active in another " this guy will beat Floyd" thread because the guy you like the most couldn't do it and refused the fight when he was younger and fresher.

          Hopefully manny will fight Crawford next.

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            #55
            Originally posted by North Star
            It would be a dream fight to make. Sadly, Floyd probably wouldn't have taken that fight at 140. Maybe when he was at 135, but at 140+ he was too cautious and too opportunist for picking guys when they were ripe for the picking.
            This is a complete and utter LIE. I find this surprising considering you've signed on to this site as long as I have. Floyd had to fight two title eliminators to even get to fight Gatti and then was immediately going to fight Kosta, but he ended up losing to Hatton.

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            • WesternChamp
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              #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              The pattern is guys didn't fight him when he was high risk, low reward and then fought him once ODH md hatton did once they saw that Floyd was now a huge draw. If it was anyone else you'd point this out and move on. But it's Floyd, you want to denigrate him any way you can, so you do.

              I never posted PAC is ducking anyone. I said you are not labeling it a duck because you are a Manny fan. Well you just made that up because I didn't post that either. Why are you calling the Floyd/cotto situation a duck but not Manny/Crawford?

              Look man all this stuff is documented. You know the truth but are choosing to present it the way you are. All I can do is post the facts.

              I'm good with whatever you choose. Guys like you only do this because Floyd always is ranked ahead of manny in any ranking of atg and since Floyd defeated Manny by such a wide margin when they fought.
              bruh, you've been sneak dissing for years. i actually called you out on it plenty of times before. below is just some example of your sneak diss. you also mention in the pass that you have never accuse pac of being dirty but just look at your low key diss comments below LOL.

              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              he has been trying to fight at ww against Manny but Arum and Manny aren't trying to make the fight. Should be easy to make since both are wbo champs.

              How can you hold that against Crawford?

              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              So shortening the cutoff date to accommodate Manny was ducking. yeah, right. The $40 mil was 30% more than he ever made, but you see that as a duck move.

              I get it, no matter what blame Floyd. Ok.

              Well let's hope Manny shows some guts and fights Crawford.
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Don't assume Crawford behaves like he is a cowardly PED user with something to hide. Crawford isn't the kind of guy that would refuse drug testing (because he is clean) nor would he turn down the most he was ever offered to fight a guy he said "I have nothing more to prove".

              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              yeah, right. I haven't heard that there is VADA or any testing for this fight so I expect a KO victory.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WesternChamp
                bruh, you've been sneak dissing for years. i actually called you out on it plenty of times before. below is just some example of your sneak diss. you also mention in the pass that you have never accuse pac of being dirty but just look at your low key diss comments below LOL.
                Those are not sneak disses. Those are facts, especially the parts you bolded.

                The thread is about Crawford v Floyd. If you want to discuss that fine. If you want to have a hissy fit because I point out negative things about manny, you can do that without quoting me.

                I just hope Crawford and Manny fight next because if he would beat prime Floyd as you posted, IMO he is going to beat the sh-t out of manny.

                I cant wait to watch that.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-24-2017, 03:31 PM.

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                • WesternChamp
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  The pattern is guys didn't fight him when he was high risk, low reward and then fought him once ODH md hatton did once they saw that Floyd was now a huge draw. If it was anyone else you'd point this out and move on. But it's Floyd, you want to denigrate him any way you can, so you do.

                  I never posted PAC is ducking anyone. I said you are not labeling it a duck because you are a Manny fan. Well you just made that up because I didn't post that either. Why are you calling the Floyd/cotto situation a duck but not Manny/Crawford?

                  Look man all this stuff is documented. You know the truth but are choosing to present it the way you are. All I can do is post the facts.

                  I'm good with whatever you choose. Guys like you only do this because Floyd always is ranked ahead of manny in any ranking of atg and since Floyd defeated Manny by such a wide margin when they fought.
                  made what up? you did said floyd agreed to fight cotto but arum wont give him the money he wanted that's why the fight didnt happen before. but you're on here posting stuff like i hope manny have the guts to fight crawford.

                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  If you have to lie about things there is no need to discuss them. Manny turned down the fight numerous times. Shame had a toothache. Arum was clear Floyd agreed to fight cotto but arum wouldn't guarantee him the money he wanted.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Those are not sneak disses. Those are facts, especially the parts you bolded.

                    The thread is about Crawford v Floyd. If you want to discuss that fine. If you want to have a hissy fit because I point out negative things about manny, you can do that without quoting me.

                    I just hope Crawford and Manny fight next because if he would beat prime Floyd as you posted, IMO he is going to beat the sh-t out of manny.

                    I cant wait to watch that.
                    ok, so you do think pac is dirty.

                    when did i said TC will beat prime floyd? and why would TC beat the shiiet out of manny? floyd didnt beat the shiiet out of manny.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      If you say so. It seems to bother you that Floyd can get millions to watch him fight an MMA guy in a easy money grab but Manny is being relegated to obscurity in Australia against a guy he didn't even know existed.

                      Looks like the fans have decided who is at fault for the debacle.

                      Yes he answered a question about ggg. What would you expect him to say?

                      You can criticize Floyd however you wish. As I told western champ, had Manny defeated Floyd you'd both be posting about more interesting topics.

                      Instead, you are active in another " this guy will beat Floyd" thread because the guy you like the most couldn't do it and refused the fight when he was younger and fresher.

                      Hopefully manny will fight Crawford next.
                      Lol...Crawford @ 140 possesses some talent and skills at his peak that Floyd has never dealt with @ 140...a dude that would be fast and accurate enough to counter him back...

                      Crawford just beat the brakes off a prime olympic gold medalist his last time out...the best guy Floyd beat @ 140 was a past prime Gatti who had already got the brakes beat off him more times than i care to think about...

                      this dude would have been a threat, and judging by how floyd has handled past threats who were in their prime, either him and his pops would accuse him of juicing, or would have demanded some astronomical sh** in an agreement that would make this dude walk away from the table, just so cats like you can say he made an offer that was refused...thats the politically correct way to duck threats....thats exactly why floyd has no wins over any prime guys that are considered atg now....

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