If resume matters why is Crawford and others ranked higher than Thurman

[BoxingFan85]

Big Thurman fan here, but bruh you're gonna make people start disliking him if you keep tryna force him down their throats. Your last god knows how many threads have been about either Thurman or Crawford...

I agree that Thurman has the better resume and is generally underrated, but you don't need to make a thread about it every 20 minutes. The cream always rises to the top. Thurman does his talking in the ring, with his hands. He's gonna keep doing that, hopefully without developing a ******ed fanbase...

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[North Star]

Not to mention he's moving up weight classes and getting guys outta there.

Exactly, and that is part of the criteria that gets guys P4P rated. Multi-weight fighters get those distinctions. Guys that stay in one division usually end up on P4P rankings after longevity and have displayed their craft and skill impressively. Unfortunately, Thurman has been in grueling fights and fought tooth and nail to eek out wins. Not really P4P criteria when taking the former into account.

I honestly think Thurman would do better with Roach, Garcia, or even Sanchez at the helm. He needs an offensive minded coach to make the best use of his strengths.

[North Star]

Big Thurman fan here, but bruh you're gonna make people start disliking him if you keep tryna force him down their throats. Your last god knows how many threads have been about either Thurman or Crawford...

I agree that Thurman has the better resume and is generally underrated, but you don't need to make a thread about it every 20 minutes. The cream always rises to the top. Thurman does his talking in the ring, with his hands. He's gonna keep doing that, hopefully without developing a ******ed fanbase...

Agreed, Locke!

[-Kev-]

They look better against subpar opponents.

It's the same dilemma for Canelo. He's been through tougher opponents than most in the top 10 P4P, but he didn't obliterate them so he's ranked lower.

Notice, outside 2-3 fighters, the top 10 P4P from top publications are riddled with guys with weak resumes but that looked really good handling that weak resume. While guys with better resumes that didn't looked as good aren't rewarded with top P4P honors.

There are of course rare fighters that have a great resume and were dominant while going through that resume and those guys are rightfully in the top 3 but not right now. The current Ring top 10 is full of guys with weak resumes but that looked great against the weak fighters they fought, and a lot of them are undefeated KO artists who have yet to fight one elite fighter.

[therealpugilist]

Thurman has a better resume than Crawford and he is very skilled. He handled the most physical welterweight in the game, Shawn Porter with ease. And he made Garcia look silly. But yet he does not get the same level of respect as Crawford, GGG, Roman, and Loma who you could argue dont have as good of a resume. Why is this? Is it because he cant switch hit? Or is it because he isnt a loud mouth.

This is a valid question

I think their resumes are similar....Bud has titles in 2 divisions though.....Ring and WBO at 135 and WBC/WBO at 140...other than that they are very close

as far as skills, I simply think Bud is the more polished fighter...can do more in the ring...he will get older and still fight at a high level, whereas someone like Thurman who depends on athleticism and explosiveness will be less effective in the next 3-5 years after he is well in his 30s.

Bud is also a more dominant fighter and has dominated his best competition or stopped them in fights that had good action

simply put...both are top fighters...imo Thurman can be a great fighter....Bud is special...their is a difference.

[daggum]

how does thurman have a better resume? crawford beat the #1 guy in a division. something that thurman has never done. crawford has beat 3 top 5 guys to thurmans 1. he also beat an undefeated 2 weight champ trying to become a 3 weight champ in gamboa. he also beat a highly underrated gold medalist in diaz who should have been highly ranked after getting robbed vs peterson. guys like bundu and collazo arent really on the same level as those guys.

[DinoCop]

He deserves the welter #1 rank. I think just bcz he is not some patriotic American nor black he is underrated. That's what happends when you just box without playing the race card.

[The Time]

So why is Crawford ranked higher.

That's a good question.

That's a good question to pose to the guys at Ring magazine, ESPN, Boxing experts, analysts, officials. Because I couldn't tell you the exact reason why they rank Crawford higher.

[KingHippo]

Thurman should be ranked higher than Rigondeaux and Crawford.

I think Crawford has been ranked higher because his performances have been more spectacular which is how the name "run time" came to be.

Crawford is head and shoulders above Thurman in all aspects of boxing, if you can't see this, watch another sport.

[KingHippo]

Reasons is simple. He completely ridicules his higher level opponents. Let's not forget that Garcia ducked Postol and went life and death against everybody he went against.

And I heard you say Thurman was "very skilled". What skills are you talking about exactly?